And those of us who've seen the paths men take to suicide know not being able to be vulnerable also makes men violent towards themselves.
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Could it not be both? I see the conditioning toward it as a vestige of premodern values and conditioning against it as modern.
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I'm so bored of cultural conditioning arguments. It's all we've been looking at for 50 years now. Consider biology every now & then.
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I absolutely do consider biology as one factor. I find biology denying intersectionalism and Jordan Peterson equally myopic.
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Biology can neither confirm nor deny intersectionality. This is a cultural theoretical approach to cultural phenomenon.
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Not sure where Peterson comes in.
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His ideas about gender are stupid in the opposite direction from those of absolutist biology denialists.
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And particularly in men. Have you not seen how much more seriously male violence is punished than female violence?
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You'll hate this phrase, but it's a pretty good explanation, in my opinion: "Patriarchal Chivalry" is why that happens.
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Women's lives are worth more, yes. Men are more disposable. Almost certainly related to evolutionary psychology again.
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Is it evolutionary? Or is it the cultural hangover from what was useful to Feudal rulers for 1500 years?
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It's almost certainly evolutionary. We have yet to seriously try to mitigate it. We just accept that men are disposable.
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Why declare it evolutionary when many evolutionary pressures are hypothetical and we have written record of cultural pressures?
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