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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Oct 2017

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted

    No. I dislike 'female' as a noun but recognise that people using it this way don't mean anything awful by it. https://twitter.com/_joemo/status/916266206809739265 …

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    • Sceptical Canuck Steve Mackenzie Yenrap Rellin KanStaandPijpen Conceptual Femme Phallique 🥄🦓🎃(っ◔◡◔)っ ᔕρ𝓸ỖƤⓎ 𝔍𝔞𝔡𝔢 🎃🦓🥄 Knowledge Pursuer V⚡️ Ryan Anderton
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      2. subtweetive streak‏ @kellyrued 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        can't speak for anyone else but I like female + use it more often as my identity now since I've realized woman means relatively little to me

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @kellyrued

        I don't. I think it's because it doesn't necessarily refer to a human. When someone says 'I saw a female', I think 'A female what?'

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. subtweetive streak‏ @kellyrued 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        sure, but I call my cats girls + boys + the context is easy enough to sort. Never had anyone ask me what species female I was lol

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @kellyrued

        This is what I mean about it not being a rational thing. Connotations. I have some with the word. Other people don't. Subjective.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @kellyrued

        Also, here, the people who usually refer to men & women as 'males' & 'females' are police or biologists so it feels a bit cold & clinical.

        3 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @kellyrued

        Yes, I am 'a female'. Also 'a white', 'a tall', 'a fat.' But I prefer these as adjectives to be used as necessary rather than nouns of being

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Problem comes when people who dislike 'a female' coz it doesn't necessarily refer to a human, insist speaker necessarily dehumanises women.

        2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        That doesn't follow. These are connotations in your mind. You can't transpose them onto other people's. They know what they mean.

        3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
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      2. Bonzalez‏ @ToddDoug 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Not every time, but very often, this Tweet is exactly correct.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @ToddDoug

        Huh?

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      4. Bonzalez‏ @ToddDoug 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        The Tweet you quoted is very accurate many times, not every time. Your tweet implied there is no truth to it. That is wrong.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @ToddDoug

        How do you know this? I think it depends on cultural norms as to whether female is commonly used as a noun or not.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Bonzalez‏ @ToddDoug 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Maybe. Maybe it's an American thing, but I know wildly sexist men, and the use of 'females' to describe women is a real thing.

        3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @ToddDoug

        I'd still address the sexism rather than the use of words.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Bonzalez‏ @ToddDoug 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Sure. But the Tweet quoted is describing a real phenomenon as I see it.

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      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Oct 2017
        Replying to @ToddDoug

        That doesn't mean anything. Your perception can be that 'females' is code for 'bitches' or that 'diversity' is code for 'white genocide.'

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