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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

    Now have a trans activist asking 'how on earth are we going to walk this back?' abt my latest essay. *We* are not. *You* can just disagree.

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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        "I believe you to be wrong & your "solutions" to be against the interests of inclusion, fairness and representative diversity in sport." OK.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        "Others will pick up on this and use it against us. I'm surprised that you didn't consider this." Funnily enough, I do consider what I write

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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        I cannot fault the way she approached me. She was polite, started with the good bits & assumed my good intentions. Ideal way to engage.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        But in (correctly) assuming I want to support the rights &inclusion of trans people in all areas of society,she gets dictatorial abt methods

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      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        I am not willing to cherry-pick evidence to support a cause nor to dismiss the reasonable concerns being raised around it.

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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        Apart from anything else, this is a surefire way to undermine any good cause. We can't read everything through one perspective pragmatically

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      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        There is certainly room for pragmatism in achieving ends that will defuse the tensions & reduce the polarisation. This does the opposite.

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      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        This is certainly relevant experience but she insists I take her as sole authority rather than link summary of disagreement among scientistspic.twitter.com/Tw6uOXj5uH

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      10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        Ignoring fact she seems to think I am trans, this objection looks solely at kids whose gender dysphoria will continue & neglects the rest.pic.twitter.com/Dt6njo5OK1

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      11. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        When we did speak quite clearly about this being true & important but not justifying non-trans kids being 'collateral damage.'

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      12. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        This is the problem with 'our aim.' It must take into account disconfirming evidence & the rights & freedoms of everyone else.

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      13. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        Otherwise, we just splinter off into different groups making different arguments using different studies &no-one ever compares or negotiates

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      14. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        We see this a lot with the anti-sex-work feminists & pro-sex-work feminists. They both wave confirming accounts of sex-workers at each other

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      15. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        And then accuse each other of not listening to or caring about sex workers. How can that ever achieve anything?

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      16. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        When looking at them all together, it becomes clear that there are women coerced into sex-work & abused & women willingly plying a trade.

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      17. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017

        And that the problem is not sex-work itself but people & situations which take away women's choices and agency & we need to tackle those

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      2. nevynxxx‏ @nevynxxx 28 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        What in all the hells does "walk this back" mean?

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Sep 2017
        Replying to @nevynxxx

        Take it back. Repair it. Go back and qualify until it means something else.

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