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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Abscuremality‏ @Abscuremality 24 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @PerspicAtheist and

      And the people who are aware & are actively working on these things, what're they?

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Abscuremality @PerspicAtheist and

      The element doing better.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Abscuremality‏ @Abscuremality 24 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @PerspicAtheist and

      You do realize the things you listed, won't affect the planet in the long run right? Just us and some other species.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Abscuremality @PerspicAtheist and

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

      Yes. It's us and other species I am worried about.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/911899960102277120 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
      This seems appropriate. http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/environment/ill-be-just-fine-says-planet-20080306774 …
      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @PerspicAtheist and

      So are the people ranting at me in defence of having children, btw. I assume they want them to survive.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Archetypal Lobster‏ @PerspicAtheist 24 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 @jordanbpeterson

      TBH, I want out of this conversation. I had no intention of bringing a rant your way. Keep up the good work, Helen. Love ur writing.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
      Replying to @PerspicAtheist @Intrinsic29 @jordanbpeterson

      Sorry, didn't realise you were still here!

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Archetypal Lobster‏ @PerspicAtheist 24 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 @jordanbpeterson

      His somewhat toothed response to your 'we kind of are' comment was probably off putting, but I can't tell you how much I recommend watching

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    9. Archetypal Lobster‏ @PerspicAtheist 24 Sep 2017
      Replying to @PerspicAtheist @HPluckrose and

      His two online lecture series and his book Maps of Meaning. In redibly enlightening (and no I'm not some religious convert now :P ).

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Archetypal Lobster‏ @PerspicAtheist 24 Sep 2017
      Replying to @PerspicAtheist @HPluckrose and

      Atheists in particular need to know what Peterson (and for example John Vervaeke) have to say.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
      Replying to @PerspicAtheist

      I know what he has to say. I find it a problem in the same way I find postmodernism a problem. Undermines objective truth & reason.

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PerspicAtheist

          In fact I find it a particularly big problem & have said so a lot.pic.twitter.com/3erwERSKek

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        3. Archetypal Lobster‏ @PerspicAtheist 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          He's a scientist with a long list of highly cited published scientific articles. You think he rejects science? U need to watch his lectures

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        4. Archetypal Lobster‏ @PerspicAtheist 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @PerspicAtheist @HPluckrose

          He's being quote mined by people who thinks he's some sky-daddy god believing bible thumper. What harm would reading his book do you?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @PerspicAtheist

          I'm not making that claim. I'm repeating the one he makes & his admirers make to me over & over again about truth being pragmatic.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PerspicAtheist

          Most recently, he's defended this position to Sam Harris and Joe Rogan. I disagree with it for reasons I've given. It's OK to disagree tho!

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PerspicAtheist

          I will read his book tho. I was hoping he'd written something long because I find his lectures hard to take.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Archetypal Lobster‏ @PerspicAtheist 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          It took me eight months to read. I'm not the fastest reader but it so dense that I couldn't manage more than twenty pages a day. Enjoy it!

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @PerspicAtheist

          Jesus. It's expensive.

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        2. Archetypal Lobster‏ @PerspicAtheist 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Honestly, if you'd read his book or watched entire lecture series you'd realize that's a silly (not to mention false) thing to say.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @PerspicAtheist

          He doesn't deny this. This is what sceptics keep talking to him about and what he keeps justifying. True = what works to make us thrive.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Archetypal Lobster‏ @PerspicAtheist 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I give up. U clearly know more about his position than me, despite my having watched his lecture series multiple times and read his book.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @PerspicAtheist

          And does he say in any of them that truth is not pragmatic but based on evidence? If so, why does he & admirers keep defending opposite?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Archetypal Lobster‏ @PerspicAtheist 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          This probably isn't a conversation for twitter. I understand that the way he talks about truth can be hijacked for particular purposes.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Archetypal Lobster‏ @PerspicAtheist 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @PerspicAtheist @HPluckrose

          Perhaps we could have a short skype chat about it some time, because I think there's a lot of confusion on all sides re Peterson.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @PerspicAtheist

          Or you can just show me where he says the opposite of this which he;s defended many times since & which his admirers explain to me a lot.pic.twitter.com/WbudKhNTG2

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PerspicAtheist

          They usually say he's talking about truth in a different sense and explain about the power of narratives for establishing this kind of truth

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