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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017

    I find myself confused by some American conservatives. Whether they see their government as something to be respected or resisted.

    7:43 PM - 23 Sep 2017
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017

        Im less familiar with their thinking but seems to come down to whether they're rationalising limiting the 1st amendment or defending the 2nd

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017

        Obv, it depends who's in power but thinking of 'government' as an institution. Authority to be respected or necessary evil to be minimised?

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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017

        What is patriotism? Loyalty to the land, the people, the institutions, the idea of the nation?

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      2. Jason Keebler  🐻‏ @JasonKeebler 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        The left does the same. Both sides pick and choose when it comes to the 1st Amendment, and consequences.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @JasonKeebler

        I'm much more familiar with the inconsistencies of the left.

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      4. Jason Keebler  🐻‏ @JasonKeebler 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        When it comes to the 1st, both sides want to be able to use it as a shield, without consequence. The right does it just as much.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @JasonKeebler

        Well, good. I'm more concerned abt those who want to limit it.

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      6. Jason Keebler  🐻‏ @JasonKeebler 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Honestly, I think that's the left, but the right does it with things like flag burning. 1st has to mean the same for all, or it's nothing.

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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @JasonKeebler

        Religion & patriotism for the right. Marginalised groups for the left.

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      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        And there's this. Pretty even.pic.twitter.com/XvgV4r6sz3

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      2. Suzy Lebovitz‏ @suzylebo 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Depends on how u define conservatives.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @suzylebo

        I'm talking abt ones who seem conflicted on whether ppl shld respect authority or stockpile guns in case they need to overthrow it

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      4. Suzy Lebovitz‏ @suzylebo 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Oh yeah, I get that. Just saying that the word is being used to describe very different sets of beliefs. Sort of like "liberal".

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @suzylebo

        Yeah. That's why I said 'some.' I realise that other conservatives are consistent & reasonable on idea of government.

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      2. B‏ @AussiePhinatic 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        GOP voters seem to be more loyal regardless of the leader

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @AussiePhinatic

        Do they? Do they not argue that the 2nd amendment must be upheld in case they need to overthrow it?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. B‏ @AussiePhinatic 23 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Recently, yes, they seem more loyal. They still argue that 2nd amendment nonsense but less in regard to Trump.

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      2. Tom Derandere‏ @TTDerandere 24 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Suspicion, sometimes hatred, of authority is common among Americans. It's independent of political ideology.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 24 Sep 2017
        Replying to @TTDerandere

        Respect for authority is a conservative moral foundation.pic.twitter.com/fC4lYcP8N8

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      4. Tom Derandere‏ @TTDerandere 24 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        The idea that every person is the equal of every other often inspires the feeling that no one has a right to say what one can or cannot do.

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