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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017

      And it is just politically counterproductive to denigrate white men in a country where most people have white men they love.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017

      Completely separate from the fact that judging people by their sex and race is completely unethical & unreasonable & most people know this.

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    3. Ben 3‏ @B_Y_3 23 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      James' argument was don't say "white male" cause saying it has brought us to the brink of nuclear war. Worst kind of correlation.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
      Replying to @B_Y_3

      It's contributed to bringing you Trump & the rise of white identity politics so, yeah, I'd suggest rethinking leftist identity politics.

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    5. Ben 3‏ @B_Y_3 23 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Nope. Data doesn't back that up. Trump had less votes than Romney. Still more registered Dems that Repubs. It's a bald assertion

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
      Replying to @B_Y_3

      Not sure how that helps. Trump got in despite being incredibly unpopular. What is undermining credibility of left? What are voters saying?

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @B_Y_3

      Why did Trump appeal at all? Plenty of analyses on his 'politically incorrect' persona. Much evidence of people wanting to punish liberals.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @B_Y_3

      If you think identity politics & a failure to discuss Islamism is not undermining the left, I don't know what to say to you.

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    9. Ben 3‏ @B_Y_3 23 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Uh, voter data helps explain how voters voted? The political apathy of American (51% turnout) hardly characterizes a culture on the brink of

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    10. Ben 3‏ @B_Y_3 23 Sep 2017
      Replying to @B_Y_3 @HPluckrose

      Civil war. Nearly half of all Americans can't be bothered.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
      Replying to @B_Y_3

      That's not the claim tho. We just wrote a manifesto about how the majority of people aren't ideological extremists.

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @B_Y_3

          But there is something that tipped the balance this time. Not just in the US. The surge to the right is happening all over Europe.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @B_Y_3

          The rise of populism & pushback against 'political correctness.' There are a lot of sources in here re: the US. https://www.allthink.com/1318648 

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @B_Y_3

          And you're right that the difference is very small. Increasing credibility of the left even a tiny bit likely to avoid a second Trump term.

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        5. Ben 3‏ @B_Y_3 23 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I'm not willing to sacrifice being reasonable to "defeat trump"

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
          Replying to @B_Y_3

          Good! Then you'll not support far-leftism or far-rightism but uphold consistently liberal principles of treating ppl as individuals.

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        2. Ben 3‏ @B_Y_3 23 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          LOL then that same majority shouldn't be bothered by someone saying "white men". Didn't bother them in 2008. Or 2012.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
          Replying to @B_Y_3

          It wasn't this pronounced then. The problem of identity politics has been growing and producing counter identity politics.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @B_Y_3

          And people are going to object to white men being presented as cause of all evil. Even lefties. This is a reason they give for voting right.

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        5. Ben 3‏ @B_Y_3 23 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Didn't you JUST say most people aren't in that insane minority? Why cater to them?

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 23 Sep 2017
          Replying to @B_Y_3

          Its not an insane minority who object to white men being presented as the cause of all evil.

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        7. Ben 3‏ @B_Y_3 23 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          It is an insane minority both presenting that position and being offended by it

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        8. chippenjayles‏ @heinousjay 23 Sep 2017
          Replying to @B_Y_3 @HPluckrose

          this isn't about being offended. it's about bringing the discourse back to sanity all around

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        9. Ben 3‏ @B_Y_3 23 Sep 2017
          Replying to @heinousjay @HPluckrose

          ....which starts by refusing to be offended

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