In WW1 industrialized nations sent millions to die for traditional values. Not sure this maps on well to Europe. USA/other places though, ya
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Replying to @premodernism @Gil_Ant
I'm not sure about this. Were people fighting for traditional values or for liberal ones? Maybe all of the above.
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The values of the early 20th century would be considered traditional & conservative now but I think they were in line with liberal democracy
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Replying to @HPluckrose @premodernism
motives/rational of elite or people on the ground? agree with 1st, not 2st. that divide is mostly gone now.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @premodernism
don't think WW1Tommy in trenches were fighting for democracy, but for god and country.
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Replying to @Gil_Ant @premodernism
For country certainly. Religion was already fading here. But above all for notions of goodness & freedom that liberals still value today.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Gil_Ant
Imo The Russians were fighting for monarchic values. Same aristocracy led to the Russia/England alliance. Without it no England in the war.
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Replying to @premodernism @Gil_Ant
OK. I'm not very interested in 20th century military history.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Gil_Ant
That's fine. I just think it is exceptionally important in the transition of western states from traditional values to modern ones.
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Well, traditional to modern is always in flux. This was the period of modernism after all.
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