we should be so happy to have those numbers in Europe regarding disrupting a talk, here those numbers double, at least.
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Replying to @Gil_Ant
Oh yes. It is Europe & Anglophone nations I am really talking about. Much of the rest of the world is much worse.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
yes, southern and eastern Europe, are really diff in that regard. from legislative philosophy/frameworks to avg ppl attitudes.
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Replying to @Gil_Ant
Yes, I'm sure it is. I'm really not talking about geography.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
me neither, was replying to "Most of us" when i said ppl are normally authoritarian. point is that's a learned value, not a norm occurring 1
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Replying to @Gil_Ant
I agree. I think Haidt gets it right here.pic.twitter.com/vTNoWj1hdB
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Gil_Ant
In WW1 industrialized nations sent millions to die for traditional values. Not sure this maps on well to Europe. USA/other places though, ya
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Replying to @premodernism @Gil_Ant
I'm not sure about this. Were people fighting for traditional values or for liberal ones? Maybe all of the above.
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The values of the early 20th century would be considered traditional & conservative now but I think they were in line with liberal democracy
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Gil_Ant
People fought for all sorts of reasons. Chivalric values were motivator. Many were forced. Deserters often shot. Even decimation was used.
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Yes, I'm sure they did.
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