The scientific method.
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No, but concerned that where objectivity relates to morality you're conflating it with absolutism. Absolutism = fictionalism, not realism.
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I don't know what you're talking about.
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Theists claim their morality is objective, but it's really just deontological absolutism based on fairytales ie fictionalism.
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Yes, I know. I'm not one tho so I don't see how this applies to me.
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Seems that by forsaking any claim to objective morality we are allowing theists to shape the narrative. Moral relativism also a problem.
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That's a bad reason tho. We don't know the origins of everything. Shld we pretend too so theist aren't the only ones claiming to?
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I don't know that we disagree on anything. It's just that you call objective facts abt human thriving 'objective morality.'
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I think we do agree in essence, just not on terminology. Think terms are important for debating this issue with theists and nihilists.
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