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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Dave Day‏ @GardenerN21 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      If a child is dressed in pink, and as a consequence pushed towards dolls, even though 'she' is a boy... that's not society making choices?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @GardenerN21

      Try to get a child to play with toys they don't want to & ignore the ones they do. The other apes also have gender prefs re dolls & trucks.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Dave Day‏ @GardenerN21 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Can you get a child to play with unfamiliar toys once they've been conditioned to play with certain toys (boys/girls)?

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @GardenerN21

      Show evidence of the conditioning. Kids do their own things with toys & have access to all kinds.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GardenerN21

      See the Norwegian Gender Paradox - pre-verbal babies still have typically gendered interests in toys.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GardenerN21

      You can try to condition a girl to like trucks & a boy to like dolls but its unlikely to work if they don't.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GardenerN21

      Interestingly, the children who do like toys more typically liked by opposite sex are likely to be gay or lesbian.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GardenerN21

      This is believed to be related to high levels of testosterone or oestrogen they are exposed to in the womb.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GardenerN21

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

      We tried doing the gender neutral toy thing. It really doesn't work. So much evidence it doesn't work.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/747999269072867328 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
      Replying to @HPluckrose
      Gave my daughter train set at three. She took them off track, gave them names, put bows on them & had a tea party.
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    10. Dave Day‏ @GardenerN21 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      So, what you're saying is that at age 3 a child is unlikely to go against conditioning. I'm playing devil's advocate.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @GardenerN21

      But I don't know what that means. She did go against it. We tried to get her interested in train sets. She resisted it. Just wasn't.

      8:11 AM - 19 Sep 2017
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GardenerN21

          But it's not Devil's Advocate. The blank slate has been the standard social science model for decades. Utterly orthodox. Needs challenging

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GardenerN21

          We couldn't condition her into thinking she wanted to race the trains. She wanted to give them a personality & make them talk to each other.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GardenerN21

          And this comes up again & again & is found to be strongly indicated in metastudies. Girls more interested in the social, boys the technical.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GardenerN21

          Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Heterodox Academy

          This is a survey of the metastudies on this.https://twitter.com/HdxAcademy/status/901130484004122626 …

          Helen Pluckrose added,

          Heterodox Academy @HdxAcademy
          The Most Authoritative Review Paper on Gender Differences- a supplement to our original #googlememo blog https://heterodoxacademy.org/2017/08/25/the-most-authoritative-review-paper-on-gender-differences/ …
          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Dave Day‏ @GardenerN21 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          So, from birth, you gave your daughter 'boy's toys' and she resisted?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @GardenerN21

          Yes, she was always more interested in her toys with faces than in things that moved but didn't.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GardenerN21

          She's just one example & she's not that gender-typical otherwise but there really is mountains of evidence for this.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GardenerN21

          Girls speak earlier than boys, Girl newborns look at faces for longer. No-one's forcing women into psychology rather than engineering.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Dave Day‏ @GardenerN21 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Can anything be said about girls who don't talk until later?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @GardenerN21

          I don't know. But girls brains connect more across the lobes which also indicates communication skills. Boys more within lobes

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GardenerN21

          It would be much more surprising if we were the only primates not to have gender differences or if our brains were the only thing the same.

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