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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Sᴛᴇᴠᴇɴ Wɪʟʟɪᴀᴍꜱᴏɴ‏ @scarce_sense 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      OK? He seems to be on the other side of that equation... Do you have an example?

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @scarce_sense

      He believes things are true if they are useful. He's a pragmatist. If believing that 2+2=5 gave humans an advantage, it'd be true. egpic.twitter.com/UtMZLiQYkq

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    3. Sᴛᴇᴠᴇɴ Wɪʟʟɪᴀᴍꜱᴏɴ‏ @scarce_sense 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I think you'll find he's using a different definition of 'truth.' Metaphor or wisdom as opposed to hard facts.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @scarce_sense

      Yes, exactly. A subjective truth. Much like the PoMos. And he prioritises this & brings it into discussion of literal truth. Like Pomos.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @scarce_sense

      eg, see Sokal & Bricmont criticising this idea. They're talking abt PoMos but they could just as easily be talking abt Petersonpic.twitter.com/uExswKHPUT

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    6. Sᴛᴇᴠᴇɴ Wɪʟʟɪᴀᴍꜱᴏɴ‏ @scarce_sense 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      This doesn't sound like him at all. Have you spoken to him?

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @scarce_sense

      I've listened to him like everyone else. He does not deny this attitude. If believing this benefited the people, he'd call it true.

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    8. Sᴛᴇᴠᴇɴ Wɪʟʟɪᴀᴍꜱᴏɴ‏ @scarce_sense 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Yes, but with a different definition of 'true.' The disagreement is over terminology not epistemology. Unless I'm missing something...

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @scarce_sense

      The fact that the faulty epistemology keeps getting brought in & laid alongside evidence-based knowledge & respect for it as true demanded.

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @scarce_sense

      Whether its PoMos arguing that we accept witchcraft alongside medicine or religious ppl that we accept intelligent design beside evolution.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @scarce_sense

      It matters how we define truth & how we try to obtain it. Epistemology matters. Folk wisdom has not served us as well as science.

      2:09 AM - 19 Sep 2017
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        2. Sᴛᴇᴠᴇɴ Wɪʟʟɪᴀᴍꜱᴏɴ‏ @scarce_sense 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I don't think anyone is arguing any different.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @scarce_sense

          See my other threads. Ppl are arguing that finding truth in narratives that aren't literally true is an alternative way of knowing.

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        4. Sᴛᴇᴠᴇɴ Wɪʟʟɪᴀᴍꜱᴏɴ‏ @scarce_sense 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I don't think you've quite understood the argument.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @scarce_sense

          I think I have. Pls see other threads.

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @scarce_sense

          I do know what our differences are and have discussed them at length with people inclined to favour Peterson's approach & said why I don't.

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