There is resistance to accepting that the zeitgeist changes via the free expression of ideas & new, minority ideas gaining acceptance.
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You see it when, for eg, ppl insist feminists or the Civil Rights Movement changed society single-handedly by means of activism.
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They get angry if you suggest they increased discussion but society as a whole changed & that is how the change became the norm.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Metamagician
Yes, the debate started much earlier with Wollstonecraft, Bentham, Mill and Harriet Taylor Mill.
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Replying to @oreil_m @Metamagician
Yes, exactly. The ideas were ripening & they came into fruition in the 60s.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Metamagician
Back the the FS issue, it still find it puzzling that manypeople are so sensitive to dissenting or even reactionary views.
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In others words, some views are so dangerous they should not be heard. And sometimes that includes opposition to gay marriage or abortion.
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Replying to @oreil_m @Metamagician
Yes. Because they don't trust the individual to evaluate them despite all the evidence we are more liberal now than ever.
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They don't think we are. The intense theoretical focus on systems of privilege leads them to see white supremacy, patriarchy etc as dominant
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And people therefore as susceptible to extreme views on this. Got to reduce that discourse at all costs.
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And there has been a rise of right-wing populism/nationalism but the left which could counter it by offering better solutions to real probs
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is instead feeding it with identity politics, refusal to discuss Islam & accusations of racism & sexism for anyone who dissents from this.
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Well, not 'the left.' I'm not. Liberal lefties aren't & are, with the liberal right & liberal libertarians trying to fix the mess.
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