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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @vaginaperson

      You're claiming that the shelters that exist were all built & funded by cis women & now someone is making them include trans women?

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    2. Passie_Kracht‏ @Passie_Kracht 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @vaginaperson

      May I ask when you started using the words "cis women" and "trans women" and what made you start to use them?

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Passie_Kracht @vaginaperson

      Can't remember when I started. In order to distinguish between the people indicated by those terms, obviously.

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    4. Passie_Kracht‏ @Passie_Kracht 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @vaginaperson

      I understand (same for me btw). You don't remember what made you start to do that though?

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Passie_Kracht @vaginaperson

      So that I could say 'women who are not trans' without using up lots of characters.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Passie_Kracht‏ @Passie_Kracht 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @vaginaperson

      I'm interested to know what words you used before and how words like trans & cis were introduced in your vocabulary. What triggered that?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Passie_Kracht @vaginaperson

      I learnt the word *cis* when I started discussing trans rights.

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    8. Passie_Kracht‏ @Passie_Kracht 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @vaginaperson

      Yes, before there was 'cis' there was 'trans'. But what was there before 'trans'? What words did you use then?

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Passie_Kracht @vaginaperson

      I didn't discuss trans issues before I discussed trans issues.

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    10. Passie_Kracht‏ @Passie_Kracht 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @vaginaperson

      Why? Did 'trans issues' not exist? Was it a taboo to talk about them? Were there no words to talk about them? Were you unaware of them?

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Passie_Kracht @vaginaperson

      Please go away unless you have a point to make.

      4:40 AM - 15 Sep 2017
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        2. Passie_Kracht‏ @Passie_Kracht 15 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @vaginaperson

          Trying to figure out what made you use new words to describe a previously (apparently) undescribed form of oppression.

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        3. Passie_Kracht‏ @Passie_Kracht 15 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Passie_Kracht @HPluckrose @vaginaperson

          Where was the oppression before the words were created? Was it non-existent? Is this a new axe of oppression?

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Passie_Kracht @vaginaperson

          Do you think words create oppression? If we didn't have trans & cis, trans women would not experience prejudice?

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        5. Passie_Kracht‏ @Passie_Kracht 15 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @vaginaperson

          No. I'm wondering if the oppression existed when the words didn't. If it did, why were there no words to describe it?

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Passie_Kracht @vaginaperson

          Usually terms for prejudice & oppression come into being when society realises its wrong to oppress people.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Passie_Kracht‏ @Passie_Kracht 15 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @vaginaperson

          In this case one axis of oppression replaces another though. Words used to describe one axis of oppression (gender) were coined to replace

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Passie_Kracht @vaginaperson

          I'm going to leave it here. Trans ppl face prejudice for being trans. That is a bad thing however you define it.

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        9. Passie_Kracht‏ @Passie_Kracht 15 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @vaginaperson

          I'm not denying that. I'm trying to figure out how we can stand up for 2 oppressed groups when defending one erodes the rights of the other.

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