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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Sep 2017

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      Not above others. I'd also say trans women who feel unsafe by the presence of ppl who deny trans identity mustn't justify excluding latter. https://twitter.com/kirsity1971/status/908635009422123013 …

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    2. Kirsty XX #FBGC‏ @kirsity1971 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Having their own space isn't excluding them though. Again, women are triggered by men. So they suffer when men enter their safe spaces.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @kirsity1971

      But is anyone suggesting making some shelters for men & trans people? No. They're saying all the current ones are for women.

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    4. Kirsty XX #FBGC‏ @kirsity1971 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Why are you expecting everyone else to do it for you?? YOU get out there and lobby? Nobody did it for women, we had to do it ourselves FFS!

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Sep 2017
      Replying to @kirsity1971

      What? We're talking about the ethics. I could equally ask you to go build trans-women exclusionary shelters rather than make arguments.

      3:59 AM - 15 Sep 2017
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        2. Kirsty XX #FBGC‏ @kirsity1971 15 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Shelters for women already exist. They already are, by intention, TW exclusionary. So it's new shelters for TW that need building.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Sep 2017
          Replying to @kirsity1971

          Whose intention? The founders? No. The contributors? Some of them? The tax-payers? Why assume they only want to help cis women?

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        4. Kirsty XX #FBGC‏ @kirsity1971 15 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Women fund raised and actually helped build some of the original shelters. They still do so today. The intent of those funds is very clear.

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        2. Kirsty XX #FBGC‏ @kirsity1971 15 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          So the ethics of keeping women safe doesn't matter to you then?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Sep 2017
          Replying to @kirsity1971

          That is what we are talking about! Keeping people safe and women are people.. You are being dishonest and I am muting you.

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        4. Kirsty XX #FBGC‏ @kirsity1971 15 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Keep trans safe in trans spaces. Stop trying to overrun women's spaces.

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