Violent transactivists are violent to women. Women are not violent to transactivists. Stop being an apologist.
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If you can't be civil, go away. Can you imagine how horrible it'd be for an abused man to be turned away from a refuge coz he had a penis
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I don't accept people with vaginas have more right to safety from equally traumatised & vulnerable people with penises. Why is that hard?
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This seems to be a situation where there's a simple solution---provide different spaces for women and trans-women.
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Ideally, yes, but the suggestion here seems to be that the shelters that exist are for cis women & trans women shld build their own.
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And did they all share the idea that only people with vaginas matter? My look at the history of Refuge took me to its founder Erin Pizzey
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You vile snob. You think these things will never affect you. No doubt you look down on women in prisons and refuges who 'made bad choices'.
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Where the hell did that come from? How does that even relate? What choices are involved if someone has a penis?
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Women have no choices any more. They have to share space with dick whether they want to or not. Consent is forcibly removed.
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Well, if the choice you want is that vulnerable people in danger shouldn't have refuges if they have penises, I'm not that sympathetic.
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IIUC many dv shelters don't take men to prevent abusers from gaining access to victims by pretending to be abused themselves --
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Lack of services for abused men (and understanding that men can be victims too) is real issue -
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As is understanding of dv in same sex relationships
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One issue other than dv is trans women in women's sports outcompeting cis women b/c they still have male musculature / body frames etc
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Yes, this is a separate issue and I agree.
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How does that relate? There'll be fewer men in shelters than women? OK.
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1. Are the rates of violent offending within the TW population more closely representative of male or female offending rates?
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2. If anyone can self identify as female, how do you protect ANYONE who is seeking refuge at a woman's shelter?
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So should someone who's been attacked by a black person have access to whites-only medical facilities?
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I think you will probably find the rates of violent offending between females of different ethnic groups are not significantly different
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