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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @zero132132

      No, they didn't find it boring. They object to the fact that this type of feminist rejects trans women as women & oppose recognition as such

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    2. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      So why not go with "dehumanizing"? This isn't a response that anyone should accept, but it isn't quite 'disliked' if we're being real.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @zero132132

      You're going to take issue with my adjectives? We can talk abt whether their views are dehumanising but its not the point here.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Well, 'disliked' is a reference to why you thought the people attacked her. I think they saw it as dehumanizing speech.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @zero132132

      They see it as literally murder but I am not representing their views on the matter.

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    6. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      You are, though. You said 'disliked' speech. That's an attempt to represent the views of the dipshits that started throwing punches.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @zero132132

      Not the specific views. It's part of a general problem with advocating violence against people expressing views we don't like.

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    8. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Eh. I'd throw punches if someone called my mother a whore. That's closer to 'disliked speech' than a view I dislike. I'm the wrong guy to-

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @zero132132

      That is not discussing ideas. It is insulting individuals.

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    10. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Doesn't make it more justified. Also, these people feel insulted when they're told that they're diseased and shouldn't be recognized, no?

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @zero132132

      And the feminists who don't believe in gender can feel insulted by the existence of trans women. Should they all have a punch-up?

      10:25 AM - 14 Sep 2017
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        2. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 14 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I don't think these idiots SHOULD have done what they did. Especially four or five on one.

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        3. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 14 Sep 2017
          Replying to @zero132132 @HPluckrose

          Let's put it this way: when Muslims go apeshit over a drawing of Muhammed, we don't just say they 'disliked' it. They did, but that isn't-

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017
          Replying to @zero132132

          We have to explain why when we discuss the situation specifically but can also have general principle -no violence for expression we dislike

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @zero132132

          If you think I should have addressed the reasons trans activist dislike gender critical feminism & how it makes them feel, OK. I wasn't tho.

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