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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017

    "When TERFS attack, we fight back.' Another case of equating disliked speech with violence & responding w violence? https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=56&v=uL26jtQXSJw …

    9:39 AM - 14 Sep 2017
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    • Sceptical Canuck 🐸not🐸 AliRadicali Man of Culture GenderCriticalGreens Gabriel P. Blessing Ken David Prof. Phil Rumney Absurd and Worse Jo Clarke
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017

        As far as I can establish, these feminists were simply having a meeting to discuss gender in a way that is oppositional to trans activism.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017

        Gender critical feminists believe gender is entirely a cultural construct & so trans identity is nonsense. Obviously, I think they're wrong.

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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017

        I also disagree that the problem here is 'male violence.' The problem is ideologues responding violently to speech & that is a big problem.

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      2. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 14 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Why did you phrase it as "disliked speech" here?

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017
        Replying to @zero132132

        Hmm? Because that it why they attacked her. They disliked her speech.

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      4. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 14 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I don't know what anyone said, but I suspect that if they found a discussion boring, they wouldn't start punching.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017
        Replying to @zero132132

        No, they didn't find it boring. They object to the fact that this type of feminist rejects trans women as women & oppose recognition as such

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      6. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 14 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        So why not go with "dehumanizing"? This isn't a response that anyone should accept, but it isn't quite 'disliked' if we're being real.

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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017
        Replying to @zero132132

        You're going to take issue with my adjectives? We can talk abt whether their views are dehumanising but its not the point here.

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @zero132132

        The violence was because they didn't like their speech & that is the problem regardless of whether we think they're right to dislike it.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      9. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 14 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        That isn't the point I'm trying to make. My point is that they wouldn't have attacked for ANY disliked words. Dislike isn't the root issue

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      1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Sep 2017
        Replying to @snark_web

        Yes, I have linked that too.

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      2.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 14 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        "Pre-emptively responding" is another one of these social justice canards that needs to go away. If they didn't do anything yet, you're not

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      3.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 14 Sep 2017
        Replying to @Banned_Ali @HPluckrose

        .. responding, you are taking action. These people abhor their own agency because it reveals them to be aggressors, not victims.

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      2. Sceptical Canuck‏ @Surrey_Atheist 14 Sep 2017
        Replying to @Ceeckylol @HPluckrose

        Do you believe words one dislikes can justify violence?

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      4. Sceptical Canuck‏ @Surrey_Atheist 14 Sep 2017
        Replying to @Ceeckylol @HPluckrose

        That is precisely the point. Do you believe violence is justifiable in response to words one dislikes?

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      6. Sceptical Canuck‏ @Surrey_Atheist 14 Sep 2017
        Replying to @Ceeckylol @HPluckrose

        Some people cannot control themselves. I see.

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      7. End of conversation

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