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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Scripteladora

      You brought up unconsensual pregnancy with men as the victims! I simply said that could work both ways! We were talking about the principle!

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Scripteladora

      Assuming no-one gets tricked or abused whilst unconscious (!),do u agree that the person who doesn't want to be a parent has responsibility!

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Ana‏ @Scripteladora 9 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Yes both parents have responsability, and both should have the power to decide whether to continue the pregnancy or not, not only the woman

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Scripteladora

      So, if I want another baby & my husband doesn't & I say contraception is up to him & he doesn't bother, he can make me abort?

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Ana‏ @Scripteladora 9 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      If you can abort his child against his will... he should be able to make you abort against your will. That's equality for you

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Scripteladora

      I'm afraid we're not equal biologically. Men & women are different.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 9 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Scripteladora

      I am absolutely fine in giving women the final say over their pregnancies, but IMO this can only be fair if the man has the opportunity...

      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    8.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 9 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Banned_Ali @HPluckrose @Scripteladora

      .. to renounce his paternal responsibilities. EG if the mother makes the choice without the father's agreement, the child should be fully...

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Banned_Ali @Scripteladora

      Oh god, not having this conversation again. That doesn't work.The woman can't renounce maternal responsibilities by signing a piece of paper

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    10. Ana‏ @Scripteladora 9 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Banned_Ali

      She can it's called adoption, and she can sign it off to the father

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Scripteladora @Banned_Ali

      She's still pregnant. The man can sign the paper and go on with life as usual.

      3:11 PM - 9 Sep 2017
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        2. Ana‏ @Scripteladora 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Banned_Ali

          Yeah sure... so you'd rather sacrifice someone's 78-85 years of life so that you get 5 months of your life without responsability?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Scripteladora @Banned_Ali

          I do it every month.

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        4. Ana‏ @Scripteladora 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Banned_Ali

          That would be sickening, but I know you are trolling ( or at least I hope)

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        2.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Scripteladora

          Well yes, because biology isn't fair and men and women are different. If she was going to keep it against the father's will anyway, I don't

          1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
        3.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Banned_Ali @HPluckrose @Scripteladora

          .. see what the argument is here?

          1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Banned_Ali @Scripteladora

          Well, I can't explain it any more clearly than that.Women can't make someone else bring their fetus to term &care for child by signing paper

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        5. Ana‏ @Scripteladora 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Banned_Ali

          So???

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        6. Hannah Wallen  🐸 gab.ai/oneiorosgrip‏ @Oneiorosgrip 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Scripteladora @HPluckrose @Banned_Ali

          Women don't have to retain custody - therefore having custody as a single mother is a lifestyle choice. Why ding men for that?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Hannah Wallen  🐸 gab.ai/oneiorosgrip‏ @Oneiorosgrip 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Oneiorosgrip @Scripteladora and

          After all, not only CAN she get out of parental responsibility by signing a piece of paper, she can cut the father out of that decision...

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Hannah Wallen  🐸 gab.ai/oneiorosgrip‏ @Oneiorosgrip 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Oneiorosgrip @Scripteladora and

          ... as in some states, he loses his parental rights a few months after birth if he's not on the putative father registry & if he is, she can

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Hannah Wallen  🐸 gab.ai/oneiorosgrip‏ @Oneiorosgrip 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Oneiorosgrip @Scripteladora and

          get around that by using safe-haven abandonment. So not only can women do what you said they can't, they can do it 2 ways on top of having

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. PDXGREG 👌🏾‏ @VeryOkDude 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Scripteladora @Banned_Ali

          You're the one who noted we are different biologically. But if you want it and I don't. I should be able to walk away. #equality 🤗

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @VeryOkDude @HPluckrose @Scripteladora

          I think everyone in this conversation agrees on that. Helen disagrees in cases where neither parent wants the child as far as I can tell.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. PDXGREG 👌🏾‏ @VeryOkDude 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Banned_Ali @HPluckrose @Scripteladora

          Where the woman could have had an abortion?

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        5.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @VeryOkDude @HPluckrose @Scripteladora

          She's looking at it from a pro-life perspective, which, I would argue is not typical in cases where financial abortion would be relevant,...

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Banned_Ali @HPluckrose @Scripteladora

          .. but I suppose it is A possible scenario.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. PDXGREG 👌🏾‏ @VeryOkDude 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Banned_Ali @HPluckrose @Scripteladora

          I see. A woman's personal stance isn't relevant though. Since the choice is still legally hers & available. The man is left with no choice.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali 9 Sep 2017
          Replying to @VeryOkDude @HPluckrose @Scripteladora

          I would agree, which is why I don't think there's a good argument against giving men financial abortion rights.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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