Religion is socially-derived too.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
From the standpoint of the non-religious certainly, from that of the religious many would disagree especially the monotheistic.
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Replying to @_Kabaiel_
They can do that. Nevertheless, religion is socially variable & reflects the values it arose in & evolves according to social change.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
From your perspective it is, many who have held ethos of religions as immutable for thousands of years would say otherwise.
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Replying to @_Kabaiel_
People say all sorts of things. We can show them how much their religion has branched and evolved. Cant make them accept this. Egpic.twitter.com/JWjFPo9DFq
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Or they can tell you how little it has changed, and they can't do much to make you accept it, and there is much esp ethically that hasn't.
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Replying to @_Kabaiel_
They can show me & then I'd have to. It wld be hard tho. Evidence that Christianity today is v diff to late medieval one I study is immense
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Replying to @HPluckrose @_Kabaiel_
And that's good. It means that atheists, liberal Christians, liberal Muslims & more all have stronger values in common than religious ones.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Not to mention it doesn't mean that at all, that is a desired meaning from a singular perspective.
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Replying to @_Kabaiel_
I don't know what you mean? Liberal Christians and liberal Muslims share humanist values with liberal non-believers.
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And we can join on these despite our differences. That's how we have gender equality & same sex marriage despite religious values.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Yes then some becomes semantics. One can also oppose same sex marriage and not cry for it to be illegal punished by government.
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Replying to @_Kabaiel_
Yes, but that was not what the Stonewall survey found.
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