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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Zakariya B‏ @zakariyab88 4 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @bulla_scrunchie and

      We've gone full circle. I asked what if my children want to wear it? Is that when you step in and tell them they are being sexualised...

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Sep 2017
      Replying to @zakariyab88 @bulla_scrunchie and

      Yes, kids can internalise modesty ideas and feel they should comply with them even before they understand what sexuality is.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Zakariya B‏ @zakariyab88 4 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @bulla_scrunchie and

      So it's not about child,parent,school autonomy but an sort of anti-modesty crusade?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Sep 2017
      Replying to @zakariyab88 @bulla_scrunchie and

      Gender-specific modesty codes which sexualise little girls are one thing that are innappropriate for schools, yes.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    5. Zakariya B‏ @zakariyab88 4 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @bulla_scrunchie and

      Sort of like saving muslims from themselves and their backwards religion?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Sep 2017
      Replying to @zakariyab88 @bulla_scrunchie and

      Children, yes. Adults must be able to do as they wish. Remember the people campaigning against this are Muslim.

      3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    7. Zakariya B‏ @zakariyab88 4 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @bulla_scrunchie and

      She's gone full white saviour, you never go full white saviour!

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. anthony‏ @anztav72 4 Sep 2017
      Replying to @zakariyab88 @HPluckrose and

      If she thinks her way of life is correct why WOULDNT she try to spread that? If she didn't think it was correct, she wouldn't live that way

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Sep 2017
      Replying to @anztav72 @zakariyab88 and

      This is true if you mean that I want to spread liberalism - freedom & equality - because I think it makes the best society.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @anztav72 and

      However, if I wanted to spread my way of life, religion would be banned & so would postmodernism, nationalism, communism & much more.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @anztav72 and

      And I mustn't be allowed to impose my way of life on anyone else, just as they mustn't be allowed to impose theirs on anyone else.

      6:48 AM - 4 Sep 2017
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        2. anthony‏ @anztav72 4 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @zakariyab88 and

          - or else we wouldn't hold them in the first place!

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Sep 2017
          Replying to @anztav72 @zakariyab88 and

          Yes, its hardly a gotcha, is it! 'You are arguing for something coz you think it right.' Yes, I am. I have an agenda. I'm very clear on it.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Zakariya B‏ @zakariyab88 4 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @anztav72 and

          Gotta appreciate your bold honesty, at least I know what I'm up against. Very 'muscular liberalism' where have I heard that before? 🤔

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Sep 2017
          Replying to @zakariyab88 @anztav72 and

          Are you saying you don't argue for what you think is right? You've no ethical goals, get involved in nothing to do with social justice ever?

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. anthony‏ @anztav72 4 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @zakariyab88 and

          ...was trying to say we hold views and behave in ways because we think they are right. So of course we try to spread our views -

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Sep 2017
          Replying to @anztav72 @zakariyab88 and

          Absolutely. Liberalism is not 'accept everything even when it affects others (including children)'

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        2. anthony‏ @anztav72 4 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @zakariyab88 and

          I agree with you. Maybe I was just trying to express something too complex in 140 letters...

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Sep 2017
          Replying to @anztav72 @zakariyab88 and

          I thought you probably did mean the first one! :) If we believe in liberalism, we need to promote liberalism & oppose illiberalism!

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