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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Siema Iqbal‏ @siemaiqbal 3 Sep 2017

      Dear @thetimes @SianGriffiths6 Why's the hijab being sexualised? Yet it's ok for the same 5 year olds to have sex education lessions? 🤔pic.twitter.com/jXSZn1lgfz

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    2. Iqbal Hussain  ✌‏ @Icky_84 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @siemaiqbal @thetimes and

      What I don't get is, these sort of things are more of a personal matters for the families. Why do people interfere & make it their business!

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Icky_84 @siemaiqbal and

      A family is not a person. That's the point. A child is. The decision to subscribe to notions of modesty must be taken by the person.

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    4. dontcareutwat‏ @YuKhantBSrs 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Icky_84 and

      Too many flaws in your logic. Think before you tweet lol

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @YuKhantBSrs @Icky_84 and

      You're not saying anything.

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    6. dontcareutwat‏ @YuKhantBSrs 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Icky_84 and

      I am saying that western society almost encourages pedofilia yet we muslims are accused of sexualising in so many regards not just this

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @YuKhantBSrs @Icky_84 and

      We can criticise all sexualisation of children & we do. It's just when its within Islam that well-meaning ppl try to make it respectable.

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    8. dontcareutwat‏ @YuKhantBSrs 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Icky_84 and

      Hijab is worn due to it being a command of god. And if THEIR parents believe thats right for them then whats wrong with that.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @YuKhantBSrs @Icky_84 and

      You have the right to believe that. Schools don't have to adapt their uniforms to accommodate modesty ideas attributed to deities.

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        2. dontcareutwat‏ @YuKhantBSrs 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Icky_84 and

          Precisely what im saying. They dont have to but if they do good on them. My point was the hypocrisy in the media portraying us as demons

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @YuKhantBSrs @Icky_84 and

          No, not good on them. Little girls can stay little girls in schools. No make-up, no high-heels, no bloody modesty codes.

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        4. dontcareutwat‏ @YuKhantBSrs 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Icky_84 and

          Well it comes down to why they're wearing it for it to be classed as a modesty code. I assure you its not for modesty reasons

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @YuKhantBSrs @Icky_84 and

          OK, for you hijab is not to do with modesty. This is the common understanding of it tho. Still not part of the uniform.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Icky_84 and

          It would be reasonable for schools to make exceptions for good reasons to be wearing scarves in school. Cancer treatment. Very cold weather.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Icky_84 and

          But 'because my religion says so (even if I've interpreted this as having nothing to do with modesty)' is not a good reason.

          3 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
        8. dontcareutwat‏ @YuKhantBSrs 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Icky_84 and

          If you do not value someones religious views then thats totally upto you and your idea of democracy

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @YuKhantBSrs @Icky_84

          I don't value religious views. I do defend religious freedom. This doesn't include making schools accommodate dodgy religious garb.

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        2. Iqbal Hussain  ✌‏ @Icky_84 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          Deal out of it. And then linked it with burka, that the people who jumped on the band wagon started having an issues! Otherwise, there are

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Icky_84 @siemaiqbal and

          Liberal Muslims have an issue. Muslim feminists do. They don't want gender-specific modesty codes to be normalised espec, for children.

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        2. Iqbal Hussain  ✌‏ @Icky_84 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          The usual, shirt, jumper, or tie and blazer, etc. You don't see orthodox Sikh's having to not wear their turban or orthodox Jews not wearing

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Icky_84 @siemaiqbal and

          These aren't to do with gender-specific modesty. But schools could also require no religious garb quite reasonably & require uniform only.

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        1. Iqbal Hussain  ✌‏ @Icky_84 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          New, it's not a newly found item that someone has geniusly come up with.

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        1. Iqbal Hussain  ✌‏ @Icky_84 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          No one is Asking for them to adapt their uniform. People have been wearing the Hijaab alongside the school uniform for many years. Nothing

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        1. Iqbal Hussain  ✌‏ @Icky_84 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          Many people who aren't as bothered as some. Why? Because they know what it is & what importance it is for the ones who wear it.

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        1. Iqbal Hussain  ✌‏ @Icky_84 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          Adapted when they're wearing just a Hijaab. And until now, it didn't bother people! It wasn't until all the right wing gits that made a huge

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        1. Iqbal Hussain  ✌‏ @Icky_84 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          Their Kippah, etc. Hijaab doesn't hide their face either. I can see some point in a Niqaab or something. But the school uniform isn't being

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        1. Iqbal Hussain  ✌‏ @Icky_84 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          That's extra. So they're still wearing everything else the same! So it's not like they're changing anything else, like a burka instead of

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        1. Iqbal Hussain  ✌‏ @Icky_84 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          They don't need to adapt their uniform! It's just a headscarf as such. It's just a Hijaab. They wear the regular uniform, just an Hijaab

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