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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Siema Iqbal‏ @siemaiqbal 3 Sep 2017

      Dear @thetimes @SianGriffiths6 Why's the hijab being sexualised? Yet it's ok for the same 5 year olds to have sex education lessions? 🤔pic.twitter.com/jXSZn1lgfz

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    2. Harith Here‏ @HarithHere_ 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @siemaiqbal @thetimes and

      Harith Here Retweeted Harith Here

      The Hijab is a symbol of Islam, the liberal crusaders hate for Muslim parents to make Muslim choices for their kids!https://twitter.com/harithhere_/status/897583747247329285 …

      Harith Here added,

      Harith Here @HarithHere_
      Replying to @the_alvi @aak1880 and 2 others
      Regardless, to enforce your liberal values & cause faux uproar about innocent Muslim children in a symbol of their faith is deeply shameful.
      7 replies 3 retweets 12 likes
    3. shaheen‏ @ishaheen3 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HarithHere_ @siemaiqbal and

      There 'fake liberals'!

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @ishaheen3 @HarithHere_ and

      Does liberal mean forcing conservative notions of religion and ideas of modesty on small children to you?

      1 reply 2 retweets 13 likes
    5. Harith Here‏ @HarithHere_ 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ishaheen3 and

      If you don't subscribe to a liberal world view, would liberals accept that or become as crusading as fascists to enforce conformity?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HarithHere_ @ishaheen3 and

      Liberal democracies allow people to apply their own values to their own lives but not to anyone else's.

      2 replies 1 retweet 10 likes
    7. Siema Iqbal‏ @siemaiqbal 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @HarithHere_ and

      Liberal democracies also allow parents to decide what they feel is appropriate for their children.

      4 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @siemaiqbal @HarithHere_ and

      Within limits. Children have rights too.

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

      To subscribe to gender-specific modesty codes or not is a decision that requires a certain maturity.

      11:55 AM - 3 Sep 2017
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        2. Siema Iqbal‏ @siemaiqbal 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @HarithHere_ and

          And until a child reaches that maturity parents are able to make decisions about their children.

          3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @siemaiqbal @HarithHere_ and

          Depends what they are. Concepts of gender-specific modesty & lust-reduction cld be conveyed in age appropriate ways at home. Not in schools

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          They are right to let children be children & insist little girls are not burdened with notions of modesty abt their bodies.

          4 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
        5. Yusuf Ramadan‏ @AYR58 5 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          Responsibility and Authority are born Together! To make me Responsible for someone/something without Authority to manage it is Injustice! !

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @AYR58 @siemaiqbal and

          You still have to dress your child appropriately for school.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Yusuf Ramadan‏ @AYR58 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          Keyword "Appropriately"! In Whose estimation? The true hallmark of a democracy is the treatment of its minorities!

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @AYR58 @siemaiqbal and

          Yes, they need to have the same rights & responsibilities as everyone else.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          If it were not so loaded with sexual connotations, cld be appropriate for a primary school. Nothing wrong with a scarf in itself unless hot.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Siema Iqbal‏ @siemaiqbal 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @HarithHere_ and

          Sexual connotations for a 5 year old? Are you really saying that? Has it occured to you that its a worn as a religious symbol?

          4 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @siemaiqbal @HarithHere_ and

          But of what? Modesty as a religious virtue. Gender-specific modesty codes don't get better because they're religious.

          2 replies 4 retweets 16 likes
        5. Harith Here‏ @HarithHere_ 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          If something is of my faith I uphold it regardless of liberal sensitivities. Where is your 'tolerance' or as always Islam is the exception?

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HarithHere_ @siemaiqbal and

          And I defend your right to do so. Wear a hijab if you wish. Don't expect schools to help you enforce this on primary school children.

          1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
        7. Harith Here‏ @HarithHere_ 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          There is no enforcement. If parents wish to make the choice then the're free to do so. Only reason this is a story is because it's Muslims.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HarithHere_ @siemaiqbal and

          Its not the parents who are forced to put little girls in hijabs, no. It's the little girls who have to dress as their parents tell them.

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        9. Harith Here‏ @HarithHere_ 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          In the same way you'd like your children to be 'Liberals' others want them distinctly 'Muslim' also. Please understand this and move on.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Harith Here‏ @HarithHere_ 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @siemaiqbal and

          Ultimately parents make decisions on even more crucial matters. Exceptionalising the Hijab is indicative of a particular obsession.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Sep 2017
          Replying to @HarithHere_ @siemaiqbal and

          Yes, it does. I think primary schools are also sensible to disallow nail varnish, make-up, high heels etc

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. End of conversation

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