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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Every day I see the dew

    Clearly not right for you, then. Maybe perfect for someone who doesn't respect all traditions and ceremonies.https://twitter.com/MrSonicAdvance/status/903381230397292545 …

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    Every day I see the dew @MrSonicAdvance
    Replying to @HPluckrose
    Seems to me a woman who doesn't respect tradition and ceremony isn't worth marrying. Just someone to date until someone better comes along.
    3:23 PM - 31 Aug 2017
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      2. Every day I see the dew‏ @MrSonicAdvance 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Then why marry? Why pretend to be part of something you don't really believe in? So you can say you're married?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @MrSonicAdvance

        I married because I wanted to make a lifelong commitment. Rituals around marriage vary.Asking the father's permission wasn't important to us

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @MrSonicAdvance

        You're own marriage (if you have one) must have broken many traditions around marriage. If someone asked you why you bothered?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @MrSonicAdvance

        I got married in the same place as my parents. I had the vows. My father gave me away. I had bridesmaids. I wore this:pic.twitter.com/qPWfEMeeRF

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @MrSonicAdvance

        Have you read Jonathan Haidt's A Righteous Mind. It explains why traditions seem so important to conservatives & not to liberals.

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      7. Every day I see the dew‏ @MrSonicAdvance 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        No I haven't.

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      2. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Relationships are a personal thing. The Dutch have a saying: Op ieder potje past een dekseltje. Every jar has a lid that fits.

        2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
      3. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1 @HPluckrose

        And it seems to me, that thos is the beauty of people & relationships. Having to follow a strict code seems boring & joyless.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. Every day I see the dew‏ @MrSonicAdvance 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1 @HPluckrose

        It's classic SJW co-opting: "Hey, can I join that cool thing you have? But first, you gotta change a lot of it because I don't like it."

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @MrSonicAdvance @HPluckrose

        Thing is, you don't have to change that thing. You can just find the person that wants the same thing Other ppl can change it all they want

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      6. Every day I see the dew‏ @MrSonicAdvance 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1 @HPluckrose

        Then it's not marriage. Call it something else. "The Super-Super Cool Couples Agreement" maybe? I wish you have a long and happy agreement.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @MrSonicAdvance @HPluckrose

        Marriage is literally the legal joining of 2 people. How much ritual is involved does not effect the legal bond. Rituals change per culture

        2 replies 1 retweet 7 likes
      8. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1 @MrSonicAdvance @HPluckrose

        Rituals are a personal thing and just like culture, Nobody owns it.

        2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      9. Every day I see the dew‏ @MrSonicAdvance 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1 @HPluckrose

        So what gives anyone the right to decide it needs changing? And marriage is not simply "the legal joining of two people".

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      2. antihero_kate‏ @antihero_kate 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I never took my husband's last name. We'll be married 11 years next month. 😉

        3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Laurie Freeman‏ @lauriefreeman72 31 Aug 2017
        Replying to @antihero_kate @HPluckrose

        Me neither; we're on 27 years. I'll take my father's name, but that's it. If I had my mother's name, I'd change it, but that's a dif story.😊

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      1. Suzy Lebovitz‏ @suzylebo 1 Sep 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I so respect your civil m.o. even in the face of obnoxiousness

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