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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

      People are arguing on Facebook about whether it's sexist for a man to ask his girlfriend's father's permission to marry her.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

      Seems clear to me that if it's a ritual they both like, no. If done w/out 1st asking her & father actually has the power to decide that, yes

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

      Someone is outraged that anyone would even question this & is calling it leftist feminist crap & saying it's unnecessary offence-seeking.

      3:01 PM - 31 Aug 2017
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

          Insisting that it's no-one else's business. Tried pointing out that in this case it's not her business either, yet she still has an opinion.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

          I get frustrated when people get outraged by people discussing things that they feel is none of their business.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

          Especially when they themselves are discussing it and making an opposing argument.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

          I feel like other people's marriages are none of my business whilst ideas around marriage itself are something everyone can discuss.

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

          And this applies more widely. Sometimes what individuals do is of concern to everyone but more often it is an associated wider idea that is.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

          In the same way, I seldom like to discuss other ppl involved in the things I talk about but general sets of ideas flying about.

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

          It gets messy when you focus on individuals. Because they are complex & ppl read them differently depending on other things & likeability.

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        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

          I've felt the pull to read people I find likeable more charitably than people I find dislikeable & I think this hard to avoid.

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        10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

          Also, it gets personal more widely than the person being discussed coz ppl feel loyalty & take criticism of some1 they like more personally.

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        11. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

          'I dislike the idea that...' is easier to take than 'I dislike what this person you like said or did' or 'I dislike him/her.'

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        2. Laura Kennedy‏Verified account @LooraKennedy 31 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Not being facetious in saying who cares really? I think it a silly tradition (I also think that of Morris dancing), but it’s not my life.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
          Replying to @LooraKennedy

          I am interested in cultural things & their significance. I think this is separate to telling individuals what to do with their life.

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        4. Laura Kennedy‏Verified account @LooraKennedy 31 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Absolutely. You already made my point for me (though after I tweeted you) which is that the concepts and ideas themselves are interesting.

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        5. Laura Kennedy‏Verified account @LooraKennedy 31 Aug 2017
          Replying to @LooraKennedy @HPluckrose

          whereas individual instantiations of them are not particularly anyone’s beeswax or indeed worth caring about.

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
          Replying to @LooraKennedy

          Agreed.

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        1. A Slime draws near!‏ @0xFADEDACE 31 Aug 2017
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          So much of perception is what we bring to it--preconceptions, etc. I wonder if mindfulness wd help ppl notice the gap bt perception/reality.

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