Liberal values are open to interpretation. AMW considers Islam to be illiberal. I think she oversimplifies things, but she's not racist.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
No, she isn't. And I don't think he's is saying that. The circles she's moving in now are tho & anti-Muslim bigotry is also a problem.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Yes, but let's call it what it is: anti-Muslim bigotry. Not racism. UKIP and Pegida are not racist. They're xenophobic and anti-Muslim.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
Rhetoric slips from cultural differences to racial ones very quickly. One minute its 'cultural integrity', next we're counting white Brits
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Thing is, figures like AMW and Tommy Robinson are *fervently* antiracist. Joining a group that has some racist members doesn't change that
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
No, it just means they have joined a group with racist members & terrible reputations. They remain responsible for their own rhetoric.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
And people like Nick Cohen remain responsible for theirs.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
So, you think UKIP is racist? And AMW is racist for joining it?
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
UKIP is awful. Much of its rhetoric is racist. I don't think people become racist by joining it but I don't like AMWs much either.
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But I don't want to discuss individuals anyway. People polarise around this & there's always nuance. I prefer to discuss ideas.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @G_S_Bhogal
I can cope with you thinking Nick Cohen gets the balance wrong & does more harm than good & hope you can with me thinking same of Waters.
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