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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted

      Recommended for those unclear how the left changed from working class economic issues towards academic PoMo identitarianism (& much more) https://twitter.com/NickCohen4/status/903196805126660096 …

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    2. Gurwinder‏ @G_S_Bhogal 31 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Nick Cohen is part of the problem. He can't help but deliberately misinterpret people who disagree with him, and call them bigot or racist.

      1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
      Replying to @G_S_Bhogal

      Really?!

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Gurwinder‏ @G_S_Bhogal 31 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      This article is a masterpiece of SJW intolerance and self-contradiction. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/29/bigot-who-would-lead-ukip-is-a-product-of-our-times …

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
      Replying to @G_S_Bhogal

      Oh dear. We'll have to disagree there.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Gurwinder‏ @G_S_Bhogal 31 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      He distinguishes between freethinkers and anti-Muslim bigots, but then refuses AMW the principle of charity, by lumping her in with racists.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
      Replying to @G_S_Bhogal

      She did that tho! She didn't have to take leadership roles in Pegida or UKIP! Could have stayed consistent to liberal values.

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    8. Gurwinder‏ @G_S_Bhogal 31 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Liberal values are open to interpretation. AMW considers Islam to be illiberal. I think she oversimplifies things, but she's not racist.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
      Replying to @G_S_Bhogal

      No, she isn't. And I don't think he's is saying that. The circles she's moving in now are tho & anti-Muslim bigotry is also a problem.

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    10. Gurwinder‏ @G_S_Bhogal 31 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Yes, but let's call it what it is: anti-Muslim bigotry. Not racism. UKIP and Pegida are not racist. They're xenophobic and anti-Muslim.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
      Replying to @G_S_Bhogal

      Rhetoric slips from cultural differences to racial ones very quickly. One minute its 'cultural integrity', next we're counting white Brits

      6:20 AM - 31 Aug 2017
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        2. Gurwinder‏ @G_S_Bhogal 31 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Thing is, figures like AMW and Tommy Robinson are *fervently* antiracist. Joining a group that has some racist members doesn't change that

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
          Replying to @G_S_Bhogal

          No, it just means they have joined a group with racist members & terrible reputations. They remain responsible for their own rhetoric.

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        4. Gurwinder‏ @G_S_Bhogal 31 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          And people like Nick Cohen remain responsible for theirs.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
          Replying to @G_S_Bhogal

          We all do. I tend to agree with his.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Gurwinder‏ @G_S_Bhogal 31 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          So, you think UKIP is racist? And AMW is racist for joining it?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
          Replying to @G_S_Bhogal

          UKIP is awful. Much of its rhetoric is racist. I don't think people become racist by joining it but I don't like AMWs much either.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @G_S_Bhogal

          But I don't want to discuss individuals anyway. People polarise around this & there's always nuance. I prefer to discuss ideas.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @G_S_Bhogal

          I can cope with you thinking Nick Cohen gets the balance wrong & does more harm than good & hope you can with me thinking same of Waters.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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