Not necessarily hitler wasn't going to be stopped by conversation. It eventually took violence.
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He wouldn't have had power had his ideas been defeated.
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I agree with you btw Helen. But there comes a point when violence is justified, we aren't there yet of course.
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But the more powerful group vwill always win. And a group gets supporters with its ideas.
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Not always. They aren't alway upfront with their ideas. Often they tell the peeps what they want to hear.
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Still ideas. Might not be honestly held but its the ideas that get support.
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And my argument is that your overarching statement is simplistic and uses broad generalizations to escape substantive discussion.
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But you're arguing with things I'm not saying so I'll have to ignore you & hope you learn to reason eventually.
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Agree. & my argument is that *groups of people holding awful ideas are insusceptible to debate. It is *useless* to even try. Herd mentality.
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The best that can be done is to have authorities demand they behave lawfully, and cited/arrested if they don't. Other than that: ignore.
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Do horrible, awful, ideas insult my mind? Of course. But I don't imagine I can disinfect the world. Only hope to prevent pandemics.
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Granted the war wasn't justified by his speeches it was justified by his military actions and his murderous regime.
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Don't feel bad. When they don't pass the Turing test, they just go back to the factory for a few tweaks and a fresh coat of paint.
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Obviously the war on terror has destroyed all radical terroristic ideology
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