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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 27 Aug 2017

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Daniel Baryon

    Jesus. I give up. I can't be any clearer my argument is awful ideas are defeated by better ones, not by violencehttps://twitter.com/apeirophobic/status/901993018156306432 …

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    Daniel Baryon @apeirophobic
    Replying to @HPluckrose
    This is an extraordinary exaggeration. You are trying to justify platforms for Nazis by comparing them to views that aren't genocide.
    7:25 PM - 27 Aug 2017
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    • The Confessions Bobson Dugnutt ❌ Michael Davis Mike Kelly Eric Dykstra Joey Pickens Charles R. Mousseau 🇫🇷 The 'Bone Saw Babe' Yukster 🇯🇵 🇺🇸 Nega Greg
    7 replies 6 retweets 57 likes
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      2. robert‏ @rmgolden1995 27 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Not necessarily hitler wasn't going to be stopped by conversation. It eventually took violence.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 27 Aug 2017
        Replying to @rmgolden1995

        He wouldn't have had power had his ideas been defeated.

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      4. robert‏ @rmgolden1995 27 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I agree with you btw Helen. But there comes a point when violence is justified, we aren't there yet of course.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 27 Aug 2017
        Replying to @rmgolden1995

        But the more powerful group vwill always win. And a group gets supporters with its ideas.

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      6. robert‏ @rmgolden1995 27 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Not always. They aren't alway upfront with their ideas. Often they tell the peeps what they want to hear.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 27 Aug 2017
        Replying to @rmgolden1995

        Still ideas. Might not be honestly held but its the ideas that get support.

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      2. Daniel Baryon‏ @apeirophobic 27 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        And my argument is that your overarching statement is simplistic and uses broad generalizations to escape substantive discussion.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 27 Aug 2017
        Replying to @apeirophobic

        But you're arguing with things I'm not saying so I'll have to ignore you & hope you learn to reason eventually.

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      2. The 'Bone Saw Babe' Yukster  🇯🇵  🇺🇸‏ @SetagayaGirl 27 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Agree. & my argument is that *groups of people holding awful ideas are insusceptible to debate. It is *useless* to even try. Herd mentality.

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      3. The 'Bone Saw Babe' Yukster  🇯🇵  🇺🇸‏ @SetagayaGirl 27 Aug 2017
        Replying to @SetagayaGirl @HPluckrose

        The best that can be done is to have authorities demand they behave lawfully, and cited/arrested if they don't. Other than that: ignore.

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      4. The 'Bone Saw Babe' Yukster  🇯🇵  🇺🇸‏ @SetagayaGirl 27 Aug 2017
        Replying to @SetagayaGirl @HPluckrose

        Do horrible, awful, ideas insult my mind? Of course. But I don't imagine I can disinfect the world. Only hope to prevent pandemics.

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      1. robert‏ @rmgolden1995 27 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Granted the war wasn't justified by his speeches it was justified by his military actions and his murderous regime.

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      1. Brien OToole‏ @BrienOToole 27 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Don't feel bad. When they don't pass the Turing test, they just go back to the factory for a few tweaks and a fresh coat of paint.

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      1. flabberghosted(Am I an NPC?)‏ @observeaddict 27 Aug 2017
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        Obviously the war on terror has destroyed all radical terroristic ideology

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