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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017

      It's amazing how many people think of themselves as excommunicated from their moral/political/intellectual community.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      These groups split on ethical grounds & then each side thinks of themselves as having been cast out by a bigger & wrong-headed mainstream.

      1 reply 2 retweets 7 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Sometimes, one of them is clearly right & the group has become dominated by an attitude or approach which doesn't include them.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      But very often, it is not so clear & people's perception of the schism maximises the other side & minimises their own completely sincerely.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017

      Or they just get the balance completely wrong. Is someone going to tell me there is a name for this phenomenon? You usually do.

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I've seen so many arguments over whether 'the atheist movement' is now dominated by Islamophilic SJWs or Islamophobic alt-right.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          This came abt coz western atheists critical of religion & collectivized were more likely to be liberal & then liberals split over Islam.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Whether to criticise illiberal ideas consistently or to prioritise supporting minority groups even if that meant you didn't do that.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          And for many, this issue became polarising with people taking more extreme views on it in reaction to each other.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Until there genuinely were Islamophilic SJW atheists & anti-Muslim alt-right atheists who were once consistent liberal atheists,

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Although it remains far more common to accuse people of being either when they are in fact neither but just differ slightly on approach.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Which really goes to show why 'atheist' is not really an identity & it's probably best not to make it one. Just 1 position on one thing.

          3 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Moral communities cannot form around this & they're really always about secularism, liberalism, rationalism, human rights - positive things.

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        2. Neil Garratt‏ @NeilGarratt 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Yep, as you guessed there is a name: group polarisation. See Cass Sunstein's work.

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        3. Neil Garratt‏ @NeilGarratt 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @NeilGarratt @HPluckrose

          What sunstein found was that groups actively diverge from each other and/or the mainstream and become more extreme in their ideas/views.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @NeilGarratt

          Oh yes, I knew about this. Will be publishing something on it in a couple of days. But that perception of the other side as big/mainstream?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Neil Garratt‏ @NeilGarratt 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Look forward to it. On differential size perception, I haven't noticed that and I can't recall a name.

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        6. Neil Garratt‏ @NeilGarratt 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @NeilGarratt @HPluckrose

          Perhaps it's based on loss aversion: threats and losses loom larger than opportunities or gains?

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @NeilGarratt

          Yes, maybe! And maybe evolution has favoured people who see a threat as greater than it is rather than lesser or accurately?

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        2. JRPDX‏ @jreinhardtpdx 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          The Spiral of Silence

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        3. JRPDX‏ @jreinhardtpdx 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @jreinhardtpdx @HPluckrose

          Then, when people are scared of isolation because lines are getting blurred, reaffirm the lines and aim to exist within them. Panopticism...

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        4. JRPDX‏ @jreinhardtpdx 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @jreinhardtpdx @HPluckrose

          ...thrives in online platforms because everything you say is documented. You gotta shout louder with friends or be seen as weak/complicit

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        1. Xavier Trapnel‏ @XavierTrapnel 20 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          "feeling sorry for yourself" ?

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