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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Aug 2017

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Owen Jones 🌹

    This construction - 'When X group does this it's bad but when Y does it it's fine!' - often indicates a kind of paranoid tribalism.https://twitter.com/owenjones84/status/898115810455060481 …

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    Why is a left critique of "centrism" portrayed as absolutely outrageous, when never-ending "centrist" critiques of the left are fair?
    3:26 AM - 19 Aug 2017
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Because the other side is usually saying the same thing in reverse & both are vaguely indicating a mainstream view hostile to them.

        1 reply 3 retweets 11 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        'Why are all white ppl responsible for neo-nazi violence but not Muslims for Islamist violence' or other way round is particularly common

        1 reply 6 retweets 16 likes
      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Of course, such inconsistent reasoning can be shown to exist but the qualifier 'according to this biased group' needs to be stated.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Instead, the hypocrisy is presented as a widespread & mainstream one by not so situating it.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        But the question 'why is criticism of this group's values by that group outrageous but not other way round' doesn't even make sense.

        3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        You'd have to assume that if everything were fair & reasonable, two contradictory positions on a thing wld be seen as equally worthy.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Somite of the Devil’s Backbone‏ @toxicpath 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Just vote Dem. Just do it.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Aug 2017
        Replying to @toxicpath

        Huh?

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. Tony Hopkinson‏ @TonyJHopkinson 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Careful, this intelectual giant might block you if you show the flaws in his 'logic'

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Brewstermonk‏ @Brewstermonk1 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @TonyJHopkinson @HPluckrose

        I thought everyone with a slightly different view / stance from the man-child are blocked - I wear my badge with an ironic smile

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Tony Hopkinson‏ @TonyJHopkinson 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @Brewstermonk1 @HPluckrose

        Yep gay version of Steve Shives. I where mine witha frown, wondering why people bother listening to the twat.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      1. Anne  🙊 🙈 🙉‏ @picaae 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        This is nothing but shifting the blame and guilt tripping people into becoming extremists or at least supportive of extremism.

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      2. pseudonymous_me‏ @pseudonymous_me 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Yrs ago, while apologizing to X, I saw I was apologizing 4 doing smthing X did all the time. I said so. Response: "Yeah...But. That's. ME!"

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. pseudonymous_me‏ @pseudonymous_me 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @pseudonymous_me @HPluckrose

        That said, there are times when context makes the difference acceptable...

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      4. pseudonymous_me‏ @pseudonymous_me 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @pseudonymous_me @HPluckrose

        Minutes after getting a license, I was honked at for moving my car/passengers into an intersection. Another driver was doing the same.

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      5. pseudonymous_me‏ @pseudonymous_me 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @pseudonymous_me @HPluckrose

        And I must admit, though we were claiming the same space... they had the right to it at that time and place.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. pseudonymous_me‏ @pseudonymous_me 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @pseudonymous_me @HPluckrose

        In my defence, it was my first time driving with my first "learner's-permit" driver's licence...

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      7. pseudonymous_me‏ @pseudonymous_me 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @pseudonymous_me @HPluckrose

        Sometimes, one really should stay in their own lane. Literally. And figuratively.

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      1. Ryan‏ @domosbrain 19 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        "How come Democracy can critique Auhoritarianism but everyone laughs when the DPRK critiques the West? So unfair!!"

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