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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Aug 2017

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted  ❌super maga Doge  🐶 ❌

    No, it's not. People can find themselves in the centre but this is almost never a result of a philosophical commitment to 'centrism.'https://twitter.com/melonfraufrau/status/898316801708359680 …

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     ❌super maga Doge  🐶 ❌ @Doge_Covfefe
    I don't think centrist is a real position.
    4:01 PM - 17 Aug 2017
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Almost no-one's principles or moral intuitions revolve around finding the centre of any issue & believing in that.

        7 replies 1 retweet 16 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Rather they are in the centre because their values happen to be in the country they live in. Elsewhere, they'd be somewhere else.

        3 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        So, 'centrism' is not the right way to look at it. There are positive values there & ppl defined by those, not where they fall on spectrum

        4 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        If I look at where I fall on Left/Right spectrum, it is just Left of centre but I am not a conciliatory, compromising, undecided person.

        1 reply 2 retweets 10 likes
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        And its a mistake to think of people who find themselves there just on that spectrum are wishy-washy & uncommitted.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I have argued in terms of a centre in the past but I've always really been talking abt a set of principles rooted in liberalism & humanism.

        1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Which are found on the left & right but not in the extreme reaches of either.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
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      2.  👻 Spooky Smudge  🎃‏ @IllegibleSmudge 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It can be, but it's usually phrased as a commitment to moderation & finding a balance between extremes. Often fond of pendulum analogies.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @IllegibleSmudge

        But within a certain context and due to entirely different values that straddle both sides. Not coz you think middle always best.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4.  👻 Spooky Smudge  🎃‏ @IllegibleSmudge 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Maybe not that the middle is best, but a deep suspicion of absolutism & Utopianism or any ideology really. My dad was like that.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @IllegibleSmudge

        That would be radical in Pakistan & nowhere near the middle. You'd not want a central position there.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @IllegibleSmudge

        So 'centrism' is less useful than spelling out those principles which come down to liberty and a dislike of ideological certainty etc.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7.  👻 Spooky Smudge  🎃‏ @IllegibleSmudge 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Fair point.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Brendon J. Brewer‏ @brendonbrewer 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        What about a philosophical commitment to being aware of the concept of tradeoffs, which will repel one from purist stances & towards centre?

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @brendonbrewer

        This would still be underlain by some principles & strongly held beliefs which are not defined as 'in the middle of left & right.'

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Brendon J. Brewer‏ @brendonbrewer 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Yeah. +1 for 'underlain'.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @brendonbrewer

        :) So, fact that they're in the centre of left & right is not really what defines them. Not really what they're committed to

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      2. T.J.‏ @tjaffry 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Left, right, centre are all terms relative to each other. There is very little besides that which gives these positions a coherent identity.

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      3. T.J.‏ @tjaffry 17 Aug 2017
        Replying to @tjaffry @HPluckrose

        Which is why I think more in terms of authoritarianism & freedom, & eschew left/right labels.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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