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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Aug 2017
      Replying to @IonaItalia @purplepangolin

      Absolutely! I mean its a skewed, extremist ideology on the right which has a good version (I still don't agree with it tho)

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    2. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia 16 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @purplepangolin

      Does it have a good version, though? Or do you just mean there is a good way to be on right? (I agree with the latter.)

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Aug 2017
      Replying to @IonaItalia @purplepangolin

      I do mean that and assumed you would see positivity possible on the right. I am thinking of fascism as a form of far-rightism.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @IonaItalia @purplepangolin

      And one which ethical, humane conservatives would say takes their principles and twists them out of all recognition.

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    5. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia 16 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @purplepangolin

      But I don't think normal, ethical humane conservatives share *any* of its central principles re racial fitness etc. So there's no milder

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Aug 2017
      Replying to @IonaItalia @purplepangolin

      No. A tendency towards nationalism and defending cultural integrity is twisted into racial fitness bollocks.

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    7. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia 16 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @purplepangolin

      I see. Hmm. Maybe. But once twisted I think there's no slippery slope. You don't enter thinking "this sounds good" & then the agenda gets

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    8. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia 16 Aug 2017
      Replying to @IonaItalia @HPluckrose @purplepangolin

      hijacked or exaggerated, etc. as with SJWs.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Aug 2017
      Replying to @IonaItalia @purplepangolin

      I don't think many people enter anything thinking it sounds bad. And I think ppl can go from having mainstream concerns abt immigration, say

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @IonaItalia @purplepangolin

      to becoming all fired up with conspiracy-style thinking. I am watching a family member do this. Favouring Muslim bans now & escalating.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @IonaItalia @purplepangolin

      Haidt talks abt an 'authoritarian button' that gets pushed if people become convinced there is an existential threathttps://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/07/10/when-and-why-nationalism-beats-globalism/ …

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        2. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia 16 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @purplepangolin

          Interesting idea. I bought Haidt's book on your recommendation.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Aug 2017
          Replying to @IonaItalia @purplepangolin

          It is very good. Shows the moral foundations held by conservatives - all of them - and those held by liberals - just two/three of them.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @IonaItalia @purplepangolin

          I am still a liberal coz even tho I see that I'm undervaluing some moral foundations innate to humans, I think those should be undervalued.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @IonaItalia @purplepangolin

          And if you imagine some of those values on the conservative side getting turned way up, you can get horrible things like ethno-nationalism.

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @IonaItalia @purplepangolin

          And equally, the ones on the liberal side - harm/care & fairness - can go into overdrive and start doing harm to stop harm.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @IonaItalia @purplepangolin

          These are the foundations. Sorry, I'll stop being evangelical now. http://moralfoundations.org/ 

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        8. Iona Italia‏ @IonaItalia 16 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @purplepangolin

          No problem. I'm going to read the Haidt book soon. :)

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        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 16 Aug 2017
          Replying to @IonaItalia @purplepangolin

          Yes! Yes! Yes!

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