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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 15 Aug 2017
      Replying to @AidaNietzsche @HPluckrose

      Antifa isn't NEARLY that focused, and white nationalists don't want 'The Confederacy,' they want to force me from my home or kill me.

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    2. Excel!  🙂 😁 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂‏ @AidaNietzsche 15 Aug 2017
      Replying to @zero132132 @HPluckrose

      Anarchy is unstable, then leads to authoritarianism I included the far-left too, as i think Antifas membership is ideologically continuous

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    3. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 15 Aug 2017
      Replying to @AidaNietzsche @HPluckrose

      Anarchy can lead to any form of government, but the point is that one group wants to remove around 30% of US citizens from the US.

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    4. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 15 Aug 2017
      Replying to @zero132132 @HPluckrose

      The other has no concrete, coherent direction, and are mainly unified by thinking that white nationalists are shitty.

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    5. Excel!  🙂 😁 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂‏ @AidaNietzsche 15 Aug 2017
      Replying to @zero132132 @HPluckrose

      There lack of a prescribed ideology doesn't mean *any* outcome will occur. They clearly have common ideas about race, immigration, etc.

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    6. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 15 Aug 2017
      Replying to @AidaNietzsche @HPluckrose

      Okay, this can't just be an academic debate. You wouldn't talk this way about an Islamist regime pushing for dominance.

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    7. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 15 Aug 2017
      Replying to @zero132132 @HPluckrose

      The actual consequences are basically "????" for Antifa (who are ass holes) vs millions of people being forced out of their homes or killed.

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    8. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 15 Aug 2017
      Replying to @zero132132 @HPluckrose

      I'd take the mystery box. Maybe I'd change my mind if I wasn't among those millions, but I can't do anything about that.

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    9. Excel!  🙂 😁 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂‏ @AidaNietzsche 15 Aug 2017
      Replying to @zero132132 @HPluckrose

      Also, why do we have to choose between these two again? I'd rather not take the ethnoracialstate or possibly-solvable-mystery box

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 15 Aug 2017
      Replying to @AidaNietzsche @HPluckrose

      We don't. I was talking about comparing the ideologies for their implications. I don't want either.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Aug 2017
      Replying to @zero132132

      But no-one else was. And this is what everyone leaps to. All the time. It's infuriating.

      2:24 PM - 15 Aug 2017
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        2. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 15 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          So they're both authoritarian and occasionally violent, and we're not allowed to compare the implications of core ideologies, so...

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Aug 2017
          Replying to @zero132132

          Why aren't you allowed to?

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        4. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 15 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          That's what started the thread; trying to analyze white nationalism vs Antifa beyond "political violence = bad"

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Aug 2017
          Replying to @zero132132

          You can do this! Its all people do! Compare & argue about who's worse. Polarisation. I'd also like to talk about the problem generally.

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        6. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 15 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Does saying that one group is worse than the other actually polarize people? I'm not flocking to Antifa or anything.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Aug 2017
          Replying to @zero132132

          Can you just say it somewhere else? Not interested in partisan arguments right now. Even ones I agree with. That's all we've been doing.

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        8. Gummy Bear Messiah‏ @zero132132 15 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          My bad. FWIW, both are garbage, I'm just not allowed to see them as equally garbage without losing a survival instinct.

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        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 15 Aug 2017
          Replying to @zero132132

          And I'm not suggesting you should. Just not read every attempt to look at the problem as a claim that they are.

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