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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted (((Christian JB)))  🐌

      Ugh! "a field filled with people who dislike social interactions & have been rewarded for it." Should they be punished?https://twitter.com/christianjbdev/status/896673957990060033 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      (((Christian JB)))  🐌 @christianjbdev
      You mean like Alan Turing? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/upshot/techs-damaging-myth-of-the-loner-genius-nerd.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news …
      6 replies 16 retweets 39 likes
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Or forced to pretend to like social interaction? They're rewarded with credit for being good at their job? Awful. This must be stopped!

      2 replies 5 retweets 17 likes
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017

      A few years ago, there was a drive to stop marginalising introverts or demanding that they not be pressured to change & I liked it at first

      3:16 AM - 13 Aug 2017
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      2 replies 3 retweets 10 likes
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          When it was just a few articles abt them not being rude, anti-social or standoffish but just preferring one-to-one interaction & time alone.

          1 reply 1 retweet 11 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          But then it got very pretentious & identity-politicky. 'Look at me! I'm special & have a rich inner world you don't & no-one understands me'

          1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          It got so bad at one point that I stopped calling myself an introvert & started just saying 'I'm unsociable' unapologetically.

          3 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          But now, I think there is a new need for a general drive to be more accepting of a wider range of ways that people engage with social stuff.

          1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          And it doesn't need to be complicated & require lots of labels & terminology & things you shouldn't say & things you must say.

          1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Very easy to just be an accepting person. If someone is usually alone, check that they want to be by inviting them to join social stuff.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          If they don't, don't take offence at this. If they are polite & co-operative, just be pleasant when you interact & leave them alone.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Don't make it awkward to be socially awkward. Just carry on as usual. I'm finding this shit very worrying.

          1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
        10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Quite a few people have looked at this social skills policing attitude in terms of how it could marginalise people with atypical neurology.

          1 reply 2 retweets 5 likes
        11. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          And I think they will be the most vulnerable to it but I also think it's the wrong way to look at the problem ethically.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        12. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Reminds me of 'It's OK to be gay coz they can't help it' arguments. No, it's OK to be gay coz that's who people are & it doesn't affect you

          1 reply 2 retweets 16 likes
        13. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          It's also OK to be introverted, shy, reserved, private, socially awkward, lack filters or whatever without any kind of diagnosis,

          1 reply 3 retweets 17 likes
        14. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          If we go down the ableism route to justify ppl's right not to meet requirements of a socially & politically engaged, articulate extrovert

          1 reply 2 retweets 5 likes
        15. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          we necessarily define this is the correctly-functioning human at the same time as making it a moral obligation.

          1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
        16. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          So many of these supposedly complex ethical social problems can be solved by 'Just accept people as they are if they're not hurting you.'

          4 replies 3 retweets 24 likes
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        2. antihero_kate‏ @antihero_kate 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Very interesting perspective. I had never thought of it that way. I have some very deep concerns for the celebration of introversion.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. antihero_kate‏ @antihero_kate 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @antihero_kate @HPluckrose

          I could ramble on abt the details but my sisters kids, 20, 18, & 14 have no friends, never been on dates, and rarely leave the house. I know

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. antihero_kate‏ @antihero_kate 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @antihero_kate @HPluckrose

          this bc they live next door to my parents w/their recluse dad. They e suffered a lot of heartbreak losing their mother but I don't think

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. antihero_kate‏ @antihero_kate 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @antihero_kate @HPluckrose

          their situation is uncommon w/young ppl these days. Their devices are their lives and they make very few real life connections. Of course

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. antihero_kate‏ @antihero_kate 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @antihero_kate @HPluckrose

          I'm an extrovert so maybe my perspective is skewed but it seems they're throwing their lives away from my pov.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @antihero_kate

          I don't think introversion requires never going out. It usually means having a few friends and liking to spend a lot of time alone.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @antihero_kate

          Also, people online are just as real as people in real life & its a lot easier to find ppl who share your interests & inspire you online.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @antihero_kate

          I would be lonely & unfulfilled if I didn't have my online world. I have a close circle of friends but none of them share my interests.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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