Would it be true to say that a coherent liberal is someone who looks forward to the possibility of being a conservative? Bear with me.
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Then a liberal who achieves those goals would, on achieving them, shift to being someone who works to conserve them & opposing change.
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Unless they are not someone with consistent values & goals but someone who wants to oppose tradition & advocate change no matter what.
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Or, they're someone who doesn't think that they have somehow arrived at the end of their development. I hope to always change and improve.
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I hope we all do. That doesn't relate to what I have said tho, does it. You don't hope to change for the sake of change, do you?
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No. But I do look around me and seek information that challenges my positions. I hope I don't get to the point where I say, "we're done."
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Maybe I misunderstood your point. Perhaps you mean becoming conservative in terms of preserving the incremental advancement we make. I agree
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This is what we preserve. Women have the same rights as men! Stop now. Don't continue and demand more rights than men.
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I would dispute that definition of liberalism, which sounds more like progressivism or socialism.
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Yes, a belief in progress is part of what I'm thinking of as liberalism but I don't think it should be for its own sake.
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A belief in the historical inevitability of 'progress' has long been associated with liberalism, but I always ask "progress towards what?"
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I don't believe in utopia, whereas I do believe in pluralism & tolerance, both in part because I am very conscious of human fallibility.
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Conserving Liberalism would make all liberals already conservative. Is progression an important & ongoing stance?
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Progress towards what? I think there may well continue to be new issues and battlegrounds in the future.
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Progression as a means to keep up with the future. New tech, new health, new Natural disasters. Things will continually progress. Politics 2
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Sure. I just hope we mostly keep it on the rails - tackling real issues in a way that doesn't create massive polarisation as we have today.
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I would refer to progressives instead of liberals. Liberals, in the traditional sense, have a pretty specific set of time-insensitive values
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... as in striving for a 'More perfect union' there are goals we can get close to but never perfectly attain
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Thus if all goes well eventually smaller bits of progress should need to be made.
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I think the progress a "progressive" or "liberal" ought to be aiming for should be known to be an ideal that may never be achieved...
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