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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 7 Aug 2017

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Jean-Baptiste L.

      Convince me. Why should I leave the humanities & go into software engineering if I want to focus on how people think & feel?https://twitter.com/Ragnarork/status/894487396624072704 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      Jean-Baptiste L. @Ragnarork
      Replying to @Ragnarork @HPluckrose
      2) "Unfortunately we can't make software engineering about people that much". (Which is wrong, software engineering is a lot about people).
      4 replies 2 retweets 22 likes
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Not buying this 'Engineering is all abt people coz you have to talk to people abt engineering.' Still seems to involve a lot of engineering

      7 replies 3 retweets 35 likes
    3. Jean-Baptiste L.‏ @Ragnarork 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Then please do research about engineering. At its core, it's solving someone's problem. The engineering part is just the tool to do that.

      6 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Anne  🙊 🙈 🙉‏ @picaae 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @Ragnarork @HPluckrose

      Almost every job solves a problem at its core. To be an engineer you still need to be good at the tool of engineering.

      2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
    5. Anne  🙊 🙈 🙉‏ @picaae 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @picaae @Ragnarork @HPluckrose

      Not everybody is qualified for every job. And your biology plays a big role in that.

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    6. Anne  🙊 🙈 🙉‏ @picaae 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @picaae @Ragnarork @HPluckrose

      If anyone could do any job, there'd be no unemployment and no bad workers.

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @picaae @pica_ae @Ragnarork

      But much more of the difference seems to be in relation to different interests to a greater degree than different aptitudes.

      2:38 AM - 7 Aug 2017
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        2. Anne  🙊 🙈 🙉‏ @picaae 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Ragnarork

          Yes. Then the question is where do the differences in interest come from. So much on a monday morning.

          2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
        3. Jean-Baptiste L.‏ @Ragnarork 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @picaae @pica_ae @HPluckrose

          Please note that I agree that interest should be the primary deciding factor. At not point I'm forcing anyone to choose a specific path.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Anne  🙊 🙈 🙉‏ @picaae 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @Ragnarork @HPluckrose

          Right. I wasn't implying that, if it appeared so, I apologize.

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        5. Jean-Baptiste L.‏ @Ragnarork 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @picaae @pica_ae @HPluckrose

          My point (I think) is that there should be no barriers for any interest (and we're disagreeing with @HPluckrose on those or if they exist).

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Anne  🙊 🙈 🙉‏ @picaae 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @Ragnarork @HPluckrose

          I doubt the existence of hard barriers. Soft ones like stereotypes are easy to overcome and we shouldn't be taught to conform to those.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Anne  🙊 🙈 🙉‏ @picaae 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @picaae @Ragnarork @HPluckrose

          A hard barrier would be something that legally stops you from hiring someone based on something that is not about their qualifications.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. End of conversation
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        2. Avner‏ @avnerarik 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @pica_ae @Ragnarork

          why in this debate about interest nobody mentions motivation? is not just be interested in things is wanting to endure the training to do it

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Anne  🙊 🙈 🙉‏ @picaae 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @avnerarik @HPluckrose @Ragnarork

          There are so many factors for choosing a career path. This may be relevant for work hours, too. Some jobs require inconvenient work hours.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Anne  🙊 🙈 🙉‏ @picaae 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @picaae @avnerarik and

          How many people want to become bakers and get up at 2am every night? Any shift or standby job has bad work hours, also the service industry.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Avner‏ @avnerarik 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @picaae @pica_ae and

          even if you love to bake cakes...you also have to be "interested" in the entire package not just the result and the prestige.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Anne  🙊 🙈 🙉‏ @picaae 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @avnerarik @HPluckrose @Ragnarork

          Exactly. Nothing comes without negative sides. You gotta figure out if the downsides are worth the upsides and decide if it's right for you.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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