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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 1 Aug 2017

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Glen V

      And does anyone say a lack of belief isn't the same as not believing? Usually say it's not the same as 'believing in lack of.'https://twitter.com/the_doctorv/status/892427782722138112 …

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      Glen V @The_DoctorV
      How dishonest must you be to reason like this? Biological necessity isn't the same as thinking something is real or not. https://twitter.com/EveKeneinan/status/891846311804366848 …
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    2. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 1 Aug 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Yeah, the common straw man is that atheists dogmatically believe God doesn't exist but one can never have heard of 'God' and be an atheist.

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    3. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 1 Aug 2017
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @HPluckrose

      I personally think the "lack of belief" position is a weak one to take. I claim that God propositions are very (infinitesimally?) improbable

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 1 Aug 2017
      Replying to @Intrinsic29

      I say that I see no reason to consider it a serious proposition yet. I don't know how to calculate the probability. Others don't care much.

      2:12 PM - 1 Aug 2017
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        2. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 1 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I calculate it by the infinitesimal space of possible, competing hypotheses. If we have no reason/evidence to favor one hypothesis over 1/2

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        3. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 1 Aug 2017
          Replying to @Intrinsic29 @HPluckrose

          another, then the prior probability will be 1 in the total number of those hypotheses. 2/2

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 1 Aug 2017
          Replying to @Intrinsic29

          ???

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        5. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 1 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Not sure how best to elaborate.. People often intuitively imagine religious claims are roughly 50% likely because they're either true or 1/2

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        6. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 1 Aug 2017
          Replying to @Intrinsic29 @HPluckrose

          they're not true, but that's like saying a 20 sided die has a 50% chance of rolling a 7 because it'll either roll a 7 or it won't. 2/2

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        7. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 1 Aug 2017
          Replying to @Intrinsic29 @HPluckrose

          There being so many distinct possibilities which cannot all simultaneously be true says a lot about the probability of claims w/o evidence.

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 1 Aug 2017
          Replying to @Intrinsic29

          But one possibility can be so much more likely than all the rest.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 1 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Ya, if we have evidence for it. If we have no evidence for a religious claim, it suffers from this problem of ~infinite other possibilities

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