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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. İyad el-Baghdadi | إياد البغدادي‏Verified account @iyad_elbaghdadi 30 Jul 2017

      Should I engage morons? Please answer & retweet

      75 replies 72 retweets 24 likes
    2. Tina Russell  🏛 Ἱερόδουλη Ἀφροδίτης‏ @Tina_Russell 30 Jul 2017
      Replying to @iyad_elbaghdadi

      @HPluckrose wrote a good article on this subject:https://areomagazine.com/2016/12/14/the-value-of-arguing-with-extremists-building-a-moderate-center/ …

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. MiguelClarkMallet‏ @mar_de_palabras 31 Jul 2017
      Replying to @Tina_Russell @iyad_elbaghdadi @HPluckrose

      3 problems w/this take: 1. Extremism *isn't* new. At all. Any take that it is is basically saying that European colonialism, genocide, and..

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. MiguelClarkMallet‏ @mar_de_palabras 31 Jul 2017
      Replying to @mar_de_palabras @Tina_Russell and

      oppression aren't extremism. Why? Because they talk nicely? 2. PoC have been arguing against white supremacy *for literally 100s of years.*

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. MiguelClarkMallet‏ @mar_de_palabras 31 Jul 2017
      Replying to @mar_de_palabras @Tina_Russell and

      We've used moral, economic, religious, & rationalistic arguments, & here we are w/PoC still being shot dead with impunity. 3. PoC already...

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Jul 2017
      Replying to @mar_de_palabras @Tina_Russell @iyad_elbaghdadi

      How does this relate to my essay?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. MiguelClarkMallet‏ @mar_de_palabras 31 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Tina_Russell @iyad_elbaghdadi

      Your essay ignores that reasoned engagement hasn't prevented oppression/colonialism/murder even the narrow time frame of the past 50+years

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. MiguelClarkMallet‏ @mar_de_palabras 31 Jul 2017
      Replying to @mar_de_palabras @HPluckrose and

      If your argument is that engaging w/extremists will expand a moderate center that will create change, you need to account for that failure

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. MiguelClarkMallet‏ @mar_de_palabras 31 Jul 2017
      Replying to @mar_de_palabras @HPluckrose and

      You need to account for moderate liberalism's failure to diminish the ongoing oppression of PoC, at least in the US where I live.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. MiguelClarkMallet‏ @mar_de_palabras 31 Jul 2017
      Replying to @mar_de_palabras @HPluckrose and

      You need to account for the reality that moderate Euro/Amer liberalism has not yet stopped exploiting other people in the world.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Jul 2017
      Replying to @mar_de_palabras @Tina_Russell @iyad_elbaghdadi

      To recommend reasonable engagement rather than yelling & tribalism?

      2:00 PM - 31 Jul 2017
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. MiguelClarkMallet‏ @mar_de_palabras 31 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Tina_Russell @iyad_elbaghdadi

          That's a false dichotomy. I don't believe those are the only options. But beyond that, I see no basis whatsoever for your faith in the...

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. MiguelClarkMallet‏ @mar_de_palabras 31 Jul 2017
          Replying to @mar_de_palabras @HPluckrose and

          "reasonable engagement" you describe. And I no acknowledgment of the real emotional/psychological harm oppressed people can suffer...

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. MiguelClarkMallet‏ @mar_de_palabras 31 Jul 2017
          Replying to @mar_de_palabras @HPluckrose and

          when we try to engage in the kinds of conversations you seem to advocate. You also seem to ignore that we have been *trying* to have...

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. MiguelClarkMallet‏ @mar_de_palabras 31 Jul 2017
          Replying to @mar_de_palabras @HPluckrose and

          ...these conversations w/people across the political spectrum & have been met again and again with *un*reasonable responses. What you're

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. MiguelClarkMallet‏ @mar_de_palabras 31 Jul 2017
          Replying to @mar_de_palabras @HPluckrose and

          advocating as though it's a new tactic *isn't* new to PoC and other marginalized groups. I'm not contending it should be abandoned, but I...

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. MiguelClarkMallet‏ @mar_de_palabras 31 Jul 2017
          Replying to @mar_de_palabras @HPluckrose and

          am contending that it isn't enough. It never has been & it never will be. It's a *much* harder & more complex task than your piece suggests

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 31 Jul 2017
          Replying to @mar_de_palabras @Tina_Russell @iyad_elbaghdadi

          I haven't suggested it will solve all the worlds problems. It's just better than extremism.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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