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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jul 2017

    Hmm.http://www.thrillingheroics.com/maxims/ 

    8:33 AM - 20 Jul 2017
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      2. Your Friendly Neighborhood Nihilist‏ @Maxtropolitan 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Jordan Peterson is best known for thinking himself a hero for refusing to use trans students' preferred gender pronouns.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Maxtropolitan

        I support his right not to do that and respect him for standing up for free speech although I myself will use pronouns.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Your Friendly Neighborhood Nihilist‏ @Maxtropolitan 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        By extension do you support his students' right to call him "ma'am" without being sanctioned for being disrespectful?

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Maxtropolitan

        Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

        Yes. I thought I came up with that idea. Or similar.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/859890487234367489 …

        Helen Pluckrose added,

        Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
        Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1
        If students had called Jordan Peterson 'Jordana' & referred to him as 'her' rather than demanding firing it would have tested his principles
        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Rob Platt‏ @Robert_Platt 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @Maxtropolitan

        He could just as well argue that he should be allowed to make lewd remarks at his students, justified by free speech. Seems absurd.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Robert_Platt @Maxtropolitan

        I don't see that. Not sharing someone else's concept of gender is not the same as making sexual comments about them.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Rob Platt‏ @Robert_Platt 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @Maxtropolitan

        For sure it isn't the same, but he could make the same argument. "Laws preventing me from commenting on a student infringe my free speech"

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Robert_Platt @Maxtropolitan

        No. He's not arguing to be able to make comments about other people, just not to have to accept their beliefs on gender in his speech.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. KanStaandPijpen‏ @KanStaandPijpen 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Weirdly uneasy reading. Wondering if this is some nutjob, some sectarian ideas, or a caricature.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @KanStaandPijpen

        He's very influential including among supposed sceptics and rationalists which worries me.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. KanStaandPijpen‏ @KanStaandPijpen 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        People who describe themselves as sceptics seldom are sceptics when it comes to their own beliefs.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @KanStaandPijpen

        But they still shouldn't admire religious irrationalists just because they support free speech & oppose authoritarianism.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. IndustrialstrX2‏ @industrialstrX2 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @KanStaandPijpen

        Sometimes you have to make common cause against greater threats.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @industrialstrX2 @KanStaandPijpen

        Of course. We can ally with anyone with liberal aims even if their beliefs are irrational and not based on evidence.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. IndustrialstrX2‏ @industrialstrX2 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @KanStaandPijpen

        Agreed - at least in the classical sense of liberal :)

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      9. End of conversation
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      2. Melissa Krawczyk‏ @moolecular 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Nope.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @moolecular

        So much silliness.

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. Your Friendly Neighborhood Nihilist‏ @Maxtropolitan 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        This guy's ostensibly deep reasoning led him to conclude that 1950s social values about gender and sexuality were perfect.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Maxtropolitan

        He's very conservative and gender essentialist. Can't agree with that.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Your Friendly Neighborhood Nihilist‏ @Maxtropolitan 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Literally a fedora-wearing Men's Rights Activist.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. End of conversation

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