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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      It is also a step in the direction of a secular humanist morality which could potentially make believing in 'God' redundant.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Religious belief in the UK has dropped very quickly. When I was in my teens & 20s, elderly ppl frequently used 'Christian' to mean 'kind.'

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I'd be told 'That's very Christian of you' and 'You're a Christian' when I did something nice for them. Just meant 'That was kind.'

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I haven't heard this for years. Maybe this is part of a progression. God becomes kindness, then kindness is enough on its own.

      3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Rabbi Josh Yuter‏Verified account @JYuter 18 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Rabbi Josh Yuter Retweeted Matthew Dowd

      Here's a prominent exceptionhttps://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/886614191318196225 …

      Rabbi Josh Yuter added,

      Matthew DowdVerified account @matthewjdowd
      I am Catholic. Being Christian is a state of being. Practicing love. Some of the most Christian folks i know in life are atheists.
      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Jul 2017
      Replying to @JYuter

      This is what I'm responding to. He's American. Wondering if this attitude indicates a similar progression towards secular ideas of morality

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    7. Rabbi Josh Yuter‏Verified account @JYuter 18 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      It could be, or a sign that there are fewer people who affiliate to make the religious=moral equality

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Rabbi Josh Yuter‏Verified account @JYuter 18 Jul 2017
      Replying to @JYuter @HPluckrose

      I can think of two inexact parallels in the Jewish world. One is the idea of being a "Mensch" but that's usually distinct from the religion

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    9. Rabbi Josh Yuter‏Verified account @JYuter 18 Jul 2017
      Replying to @JYuter @HPluckrose

      The second is the colloquial use of "mitzvah" as "good deed" when it really means "commandment"

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    10. Rabbi Josh Yuter‏Verified account @JYuter 18 Jul 2017
      Replying to @JYuter @HPluckrose

      But if anything, those examples (and the larger trend) assimilate external conceptions of morality rather than equate the religion w/ethics

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Jul 2017
      Replying to @JYuter

      Yes. But could this assimilation - the mixing of goodness with God - be what eventually makes God redundant to many people? I don't know.

      2:42 AM - 18 Jul 2017
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        2. Lotak‏ @LotakX 18 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @JYuter

          Religion (at least Judaism) isn't just the good deeds. It is also the religious practices. Jews need both.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 18 Jul 2017
          Replying to @LotakX @JYuter

          Maybe. More British Christians lose them every year, as you know. But apostatising from Judaism is way less common.

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        4. Lotak‏ @LotakX 18 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @JYuter

          Judaism is different. Its not just a religion. Its also a culture and identity. Its why you get people who ID as Jewish atheists.

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        5. Lotak‏ @LotakX 18 Jul 2017
          Replying to @LotakX @HPluckrose @JYuter

          You rarely get people who ID as Muslim / Christian atheists AFAIK.

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        1. Rabbi Josh Yuter‏Verified account @JYuter 18 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          For some in the more liberal streams of Judaism it absolutely does. You'll find far more appeals to universal morality/ethics than God

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