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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @jfk2k71 @haltncatchf1re

      Not in my experience. Very often conservatives and want to go backwards.

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    2. John Williams‏ @jfk2k71 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @haltncatchf1re

      I think that you're defining conservatives differently than the reality is. Abraham Lincoln. That's a conservative. Bitching about not

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @jfk2k71 @haltncatchf1re

      I mean that they want to promote traditional gender roles as a moral good.

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    4. John Williams‏ @jfk2k71 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @haltncatchf1re

      Oh yeah. I looked at some of the comments. I wouldn't say that's conservative per se. I don't think it's a moral good. I don't think it has

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @jfk2k71 @haltncatchf1re

      Well, conservative gender roles as averse to liberal ideas of gender.

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    6. John Williams‏ @jfk2k71 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @haltncatchf1re

      I can agree with that. Where I disagree is simply with it being a moral issue. I look at both of those as pragmatic ideals. Liberal and

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @jfk2k71 @haltncatchf1re

      Well, if they're not arguing that men & women *should* have specific roles but only that those roles work for them, not what I'm criticising

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    8. John Williams‏ @jfk2k71 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @haltncatchf1re

      I think that's what most conservatives argue. The only conflict comes when both sides have interests that completely conflict. If feminism

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    9. John Williams‏ @jfk2k71 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @jfk2k71 @HPluckrose @haltncatchf1re

      Were as simple as opting in or opting out of the movement and it not impacting individuals, there would be 0 conflict. They'd go about their

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    10. John Williams‏ @jfk2k71 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @jfk2k71 @HPluckrose @haltncatchf1re

      Roles and feminists would go about theirs. But like most situations, it's more nuanced unfortunately

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @jfk2k71 @haltncatchf1re

      I have very liberal views on gender roles & will enjoy a good argument with some1 advocating conservative ones over their respective merits.

      9:39 AM - 14 Jul 2017
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @jfk2k71 @haltncatchf1re

          And that's what I've been doing today. There's a logical imbalance in a very socially conservative argument which can be refuted logically.

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        3. John Williams‏ @jfk2k71 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @haltncatchf1re

          What are one of the aspects of socially conservative gender roles that you push back on?

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @jfk2k71 @haltncatchf1re

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          See this thread. (I think you came in on another one)https://twitter.com/hpluckrose/status/885845102601674752 …

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          OK, more extreme social conservatives making false comparisons between men & women's 'natural roles.' Lets sort this out.
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        5. John Williams‏ @jfk2k71 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @haltncatchf1re

          Yeah, your views are okay. Down the list there are some liberals who I don't view as being realistic. The "men have an equal interest and

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        6. John Williams‏ @jfk2k71 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @jfk2k71 @HPluckrose @haltncatchf1re

          Ability to stay at home with the children" one is one that I fully disagree with based off of what we see in society on average. There are

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        7. John Williams‏ @jfk2k71 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @jfk2k71 @HPluckrose @haltncatchf1re

          Outliers however.

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @jfk2k71 @haltncatchf1re

          Ppl who deny gender differences on average AND people who make them totally dichotomous & universal are doomed to failure.

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        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @jfk2k71 @haltncatchf1re

          We nearly all have a need & desire for time with family & time spent on outside projects tho the balance varies by gender & individual.

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @jfk2k71 @haltncatchf1re

          Just as there is a lack of respect for evidence in 'blank slate' arguments from the other side which can be refuted with evidence,

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @jfk2k71 @haltncatchf1re

          But on a political/ social level people are allowed to have wrong ideas & live by them as long as they leave everyone else alone.

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        2. John Williams‏ @jfk2k71 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @haltncatchf1re

          I don't even think that's my issue. I welcome the liberal views. It is the authoritarian, "YOU MUST follow these laws that benefit women or

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @jfk2k71 @haltncatchf1re

          We'll agree there, probably.

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