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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted White Chocolate

      Women generally realise men en masse are not defined by individual lunatics! You cld doubt this if you listen to too many feminists.https://twitter.com/rhodeislander/status/885653021685944325 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      White Chocolate @rhodeislander
      Replying to @HPluckrose
      No. We generally just realize women en masse are not defined by individual lunatics. Generally speaking, of course.
      5 replies 3 retweets 17 likes
    2. Jessica #PeoplesVote #FinalSayForAll #FBPE‏ @haltncatchf1re 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Too many? It doesn't sound right.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @haltncatchf1re

      Huh?

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    4. Jessica #PeoplesVote #FinalSayForAll #FBPE‏ @haltncatchf1re 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      What would 'too many' mean in an ideology that stands for equality and equal rights? Sounds off, if it's something, that everyone should be.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @haltncatchf1re

      Yes, but it was me saying 'too many' feminists coz I don't think feminism is defined by equality & equal rights.

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    6. Jessica #PeoplesVote #FinalSayForAll #FBPE‏ @haltncatchf1re 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I'd respectfully disagree. It's not feminism if gender equality isn't the focus; the ideology is hijacked, misused, used or abused, imo.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @haltncatchf1re

      Sure. By 'feminism', you're referring to the aim for gender equality. I'm talking about the movement & it's activists.I put it this way:pic.twitter.com/NQX3EPKkNi

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    8. Jessica #PeoplesVote #FinalSayForAll #FBPE‏ @haltncatchf1re 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Exactly what I meant,used and abused.It shouldn't even have a 'name'..But it's not right to aid that by accepting it into the same ideology.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @haltncatchf1re

      I think we need to accept that the concept has shifted. Pretending it hasn't & feminism is still the aim for equal rights won't work.pic.twitter.com/gS7ctggbcO

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    10. Jessica #PeoplesVote #FinalSayForAll #FBPE‏ @haltncatchf1re 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I'd rather not. I think it deserves differentiating.The very least by radical, extreme..etc.Feminism has nothing to do with any of that txt.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
      Replying to @haltncatchf1re

      OK, but you must understand that when people speak of 'feminism' they usually are talking abt the current manifestation not gender equality

      5:48 AM - 14 Jul 2017
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @haltncatchf1re

          & current feminism *does* come from women's perspective, it *is* dominated by claims of patriarchy & culturally constructed gender.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @haltncatchf1re

          It does produce a lot of nonsense abt mansplaining & cultural appropriation & wage gaps etc. This is what ppl associate with feminism.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @haltncatchf1re

          It's why only 7% of Brits are feminists even tho 80% support gender equality. It's just one approach to gender equality & its not popular.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Jessica #PeoplesVote #FinalSayForAll #FBPE‏ @haltncatchf1re 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Even more reason to draw a line somewhere. And not let it hijacked. Feminism is meant to have a positive meaning and simply for balancing.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @haltncatchf1re

          Good luck with that. At some point, you end up sounding like those people who say '"Gay" means "happy"' & excluding themselves from convo.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. Jessica #PeoplesVote #FinalSayForAll #FBPE‏ @haltncatchf1re 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Sorry, I'm not sure I understand

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @haltncatchf1re

          When people criticise feminism, they are not criticising gender equality. If you insist on conflating the two, you just can't discuss.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        9. Jessica #PeoplesVote #FinalSayForAll #FBPE‏ @haltncatchf1re 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          That's the thing.They aren't criticising feminisim.They criticise something else that they insist on calling feminism.It's counterproductive

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        2. Jessica #PeoplesVote #FinalSayForAll #FBPE‏ @haltncatchf1re 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          That's why it's best to reserve it for what it really means. Unfortunately, accepting those as some shift drags everyone with it, unfairly.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @haltncatchf1re

          It really does mean the reality that it is right now. We can either accept this & address it or keep claiming it just means gender equality.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Jessica #PeoplesVote #FinalSayForAll #FBPE‏ @haltncatchf1re 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          A very similar issue occurs within religion. Radical islam vs islam. This is why I think you need to consider what it means to conjoin those

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @haltncatchf1re

          Same thing. Extremist feminism or Islam is the worst. Milder feminism or Islam is a milder problem. No feminism or Islam is best.

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        6. Jessica #PeoplesVote #FinalSayForAll #FBPE‏ @haltncatchf1re 14 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          You're twisting my meaning here and you're wrong. The problem isn't with any equality ideology but people directly abusing or assisting in.

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