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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Evan McDonell‏ @Amocito0901 13 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt @ORly_Fred

      Again, fair point. But given the incredible reach @elibosnick actually does have, I suspect that this is disingenuous reasoning.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
      Replying to @Amocito0901 @GodDoesnt and

      I don't think 'reach' is the reason, no. Don't think it was suggested it was. Reason not to bother muting rather than not to bother talking.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Frederick Sims‏ @ORly_Fred 13 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Amocito0901 and

      If reach isn't the reason, or wasn't suggested. What is meant by the phrase "He's not big"?

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
      Replying to @ORly_Fred @Amocito0901 and

      It was given as the reason for not needing to mute.

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    5. Frederick Sims‏ @ORly_Fred 13 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Amocito0901 @GodDoesnt

      Given as the reason for not needing to mute. Because he isn't big. But this isn't about reach? What other way is that phrase meant? Height?

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
      Replying to @ORly_Fred @Amocito0901

      Big can certainly mean reach & it might do here. I'm not a mind-reader. I'm pointing out its given as a reason for not needing to mute.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ORly_Fred @Amocito0901

      Not as a reason for not talking to someone. We know James has talked to many small podcasts.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ORly_Fred @Amocito0901

      However, as a side point, whether or not someone is a significant influence depends on who they are influencing & whether you respect them.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ORly_Fred @Amocito0901

      Some big names among MRAs & alt-right have attacked me. I don't care coz they have zero influence among people whose thinking I respect.

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    10. Frederick Sims‏ @ORly_Fred 13 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Amocito0901

      This also isn't about attacking anyone. It is about having a discussion or ignoring a discussion based on being "big"

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
      Replying to @ORly_Fred @Amocito0901

      I ignore them when they try to have a discussion with me too. I'm ignoring a very big one right now. Nothing to gain from it.

      2:56 PM - 13 Jul 2017
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        2. Frederick Sims‏ @ORly_Fred 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Amocito0901

          Nothing to gain from discussion? Do you think both you and I will leave this discussion having gained nothing? If so, why bother?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @ORly_Fred @Amocito0901

          I have clearly said there is nothing to gain from certain people's discussions. Those who are rigid & wed to an ideology. No common ground.

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        4. Frederick Sims‏ @ORly_Fred 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Amocito0901

          I don't believe you need common ground with everyone you converse with. It's good to disagree. Hone your argument. Plant seeds of doubt

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @ORly_Fred @Amocito0901

          I think you do have to be prepared to try to find some common ground even if its just 'we both care about human rights'

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @ORly_Fred @Amocito0901

          Coz then you can go from there. Its not just 'You're evil & wrong' 'No, you're evil & wrong.' Me, on this:pic.twitter.com/yP24pHDoy2

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @ORly_Fred @Amocito0901

          I don't talk to those MRAs coz they just repeat that society is fully gynocentric, men are 100% victims & (sometimes) women are evil

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @ORly_Fred @Amocito0901

          You can try to introduce counterpoints and you can agree that some aspects of society disadvantage men but they won't stray from the script.

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        9. Frederick Sims‏ @ORly_Fred 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Amocito0901

          Which I have already agreed are not conversations so while good points really aren't relevant to our discussion.

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        2. Frederick Sims‏ @ORly_Fred 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Amocito0901

          Also, did you request the discussion and then ignore or is this an attempted discussion a response to something you shared/wrote?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @ORly_Fred @Amocito0901

          The latter but I don't think people are committed to talking to anyone. If they don't want to talk to you, stop bothering them.

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        4. Frederick Sims‏ @ORly_Fred 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Amocito0901

          Again I agree. No one has to talk to anyone. But its counterproductive to request the conversation & then ignore. What does that accomplish

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @ORly_Fred @Amocito0901

          That's a different issue. I was talking about that thread. However, I suggest getting over it. Clearly changed mind. Take the hint?

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        6. Frederick Sims‏ @ORly_Fred 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Amocito0901

          Is it difficult to state you've changed your mind? If you put the request out there and then ignore people who respond it's on you to inform

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @ORly_Fred @Amocito0901

          Ah! So did he not actually ask Eli to respond? And was Eli annoyed coz he wasn't interested in a response from him?

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        8. Evan McDonell‏ @Amocito0901 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @ORly_Fred

          He asked anyone to respond, if I remember. And I don't think Eli cares except that he believes James to be very wrong.

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        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @Amocito0901 @ORly_Fred

          And he can think so. Anyone can. They can't demand to be heard if they're not approaching the subject reasonably.

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