What is this related to? I thought we were talking abt whether we can see popular trolls & ppl reacting to them as a problem.
Are we at cross purposes? I was just saying its helpful to identify as a problem the emergence of outrage-farming & talk about it.
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Right. I disagree. Identification doesn't bring us closer to a solution to the actual problem
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Should we pretend its not happening? Not look at society on a broader scale & how it is changing and why?
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Are we more likely to find solutions if we look narrowly at whether people are taking things seriously & tell them why they shouldn't?
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That seems like plugging up leaks and ignoring the source of the problem & the ideas underlying them.
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Outrage-farmers are produced by the increasing tendency to outrage. The increased tendency to outrage is produced by a shift in ideology &
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changing perceptions of harm,inclusiveness, tolerance, diversity & the notion of speech as constructing realities &being therefore dangerous
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These ideas are being promulgated by universities & by left-wing activists. They are both creating the trolls & feeding them.
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This sets off a feedback loop on both sides with reasonable rightists & leftists getting sucked in & responding in ways which perpetuate it
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We did move on to whether its helpful to evaluate people's sincerity & motivations & I think it is as long as it's charitable.
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Whether or not someone is honestly representing how much water is coming in to a sinking ship does nothing to keep the boat afloat
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Reputation does matter. It always has. The difference between Sam Harris & CJ Werleman's matters to thoughtful people.
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