Of course. But you don't have to consider only them.
Consider how to tackle the feedback loop. Sounds like you're suggesting ignoring the trolls & I agree but might need to spell this out.
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I don't think that's quite right. I'm not saying ignore them; I'm saying the categorization of "troll" is useless.
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Are we at cross purposes? I was just saying its helpful to identify as a problem the emergence of outrage-farming & talk about it.
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Right. I disagree. Identification doesn't bring us closer to a solution to the actual problem
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Should we pretend its not happening? Not look at society on a broader scale & how it is changing and why?
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Are we more likely to find solutions if we look narrowly at whether people are taking things seriously & tell them why they shouldn't?
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That seems like plugging up leaks and ignoring the source of the problem & the ideas underlying them.
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Outrage-farmers are produced by the increasing tendency to outrage. The increased tendency to outrage is produced by a shift in ideology &
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changing perceptions of harm,inclusiveness, tolerance, diversity & the notion of speech as constructing realities &being therefore dangerous
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For example: if someone is shit posting and claims Sweden's rape rates are 99% higher, pointing out the troll does nothing to either combat
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This misinformation or reduce its impact. Your best options are to say "that's not true" and leave it or take their argument seriously and
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Do a thorough debunk.
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I agree. I think this is different. Situational. Avoiding attacking someone's character & addressing their argument.
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