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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jul 2017

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Andrew Gripp

    The ppl who confuse postmodernism with Marxism least are those on the economic left. Those who confuse it most are on economic right. 1/2https://twitter.com/andrewgripp/status/884105162251526145 …

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    Andrew Gripp @AndrewGripp
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    It's amazing how often these two are conflated by people who ought to know better. I'm a social democrat & I can't stand identity politics.
    10:48 AM - 9 Jul 2017
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It can be hard for latter to see a difference between an unworkable plan (Marxism) & a philosophical commitment to irrationalism (PoMo) 2/2

        3 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Also there is the revolutionary ethos of both & the stated opposition to capitalism which don't go down well with conservatives.

        3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I don't focus very much on the influence of Marxism on PoMo coz I think it's superficial & the mentality is dominated by the constructivism.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Fukuzawa Sensei‏ @FukuzawaSensei 9 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        But can you ignore the fact that in both academics and politics they go hand in hand? I'm well read in pomo and it is essentially Marxism

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      6. Fukuzawa Sensei‏ @FukuzawaSensei 9 Jul 2017
        Replying to @FukuzawaSensei @HPluckrose

        It has just evolved and has a classy, intellectual face. The basic use is hard to separate from the technical differences.

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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jul 2017
        Replying to @FukuzawaSensei

        No, it's not. I've tweeted much on this in last hour. Please see timeline.

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      8. Fukuzawa Sensei‏ @FukuzawaSensei 9 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        K reread it. My question is then, how many leftist non academics do you think can make the econ vs irrational social structure outlined?

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      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jul 2017
        Replying to @FukuzawaSensei

        Can 'make' it?

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      2. Eric Casteel‏ @Kepler_PhD 9 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I think there's a bit of a generational thing. Classic 60s era Marxists hate ID. But ppl who were raised POMO can easily adopt Marxism.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Kepler_PhD

        I don't think they can. They'd need to see working class people as a class and it would include white men.

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      4. Eric Casteel‏ @Kepler_PhD 9 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Nah. White working class men were always agents of the bourgeoisie. 😜

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      1. Andrew Gripp‏ @AndrewGripp 9 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I hear conservatives of all stripes confuse the two, even respected intellectuals. I loathe being grouped with identitarians.

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