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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Jul 2017

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Count Drakiel

      But you do see its the murder that's the problem, not the lack of attraction? No-one is entitled to anyone else's attraction.https://twitter.com/hereliesakiel/status/882691562769088517 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      Count Drakiel @hereliesakiel
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ZJemptv
      TW: transphobia, violence Except straight men often murder women they're attracted to when they discover they're trans
      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    2. Count Drakiel‏ @hereliesakiel 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      No one is saying that. No one is saying 'Everyone, date a trans woman now!'

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @hereliesakiel

      That's not what I said either. I said that people don't have to justify their lack of attraction. There is no entitlement to it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. Count Drakiel‏ @hereliesakiel 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Look, you've quote tweeted me thrice and replied a bunch of other times. It's too much of a mess to have an actual discussion

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Count Drakiel‏ @hereliesakiel 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @hereliesakiel @HPluckrose

      But the gist of it is that transphobia is deeply entrenched in society. And the flat dismissal of trans women as 1/

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Count Drakiel‏ @hereliesakiel 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @hereliesakiel @HPluckrose

      attractive doesn't happen just on an individual basis but a societal one. 2/

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Count Drakiel‏ @hereliesakiel 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @hereliesakiel @HPluckrose

      If you dismiss all trans women right off the bat, despite trans women being a massive, extremely variable group... 3/

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Count Drakiel‏ @hereliesakiel 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @hereliesakiel @HPluckrose

      then it's important to examine what you think 'trans woman' means. If it's a matter of preference, or a dismissal of identity

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @hereliesakiel

      No, its not. Attraction is personal and does not require justifying. This realisation is new & is essential to LGBT rights.

      1:45 PM - 5 Jul 2017
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @hereliesakiel

          You see the problem with telling trans women that all kinds of men exist & they can be any kind they like, rather than reject maleness?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @hereliesakiel

          Its not listening to who they are, what they need to be, what kind of relationships they want to have. They don't have to justify those.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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