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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. ROGD = Zinnia Jones Gender Virus‏Verified account @ZJemptv 5 Jul 2017

      So given the reaction to my suggestion straight men should consider dating trans women, do you think straight men might be kind of insecure?

      55 replies 8 retweets 156 likes
    2. GeneralDienamics‏ @GenDie17 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @ZJemptv

      Well I do think it's weird that a guy would think "she's hot!" right up to the point where he finds out she's got a penis.

      2 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
    3. GeneralDienamics‏ @GenDie17 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @GenDie17 @ZJemptv

      Like how does that become the dealbreaker?

      5 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @GenDie17 @ZJemptv

      They might not be attracted to penises and want a full sexual relationship.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. GeneralDienamics‏ @GenDie17 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ZJemptv

      What is a "full sexual relationship"? Trans people can and do have "full" sex.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @GenDie17 @ZJemptv

      Of course they do. I meant that not being attracted to penises becomes relevant when having full sexual relationships with someone with one

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GenDie17 @ZJemptv

      Would I be considered transphobic for being attracted to masculine men & women but not feminine ones if in practice this means I'd date...

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Jul 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GenDie17 @ZJemptv

      ...cis men & cis women & trans men but very rarely trans women coz their gender presentation is nearly always (in my experience) feminine

      11:25 AM - 5 Jul 2017
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        2. GeneralDienamics‏ @GenDie17 5 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @ZJemptv

          No, I guess that's basically where I am. Androgynous/femme features attract me (regardless of genitalia), masc features don't.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. GeneralDienamics‏ @GenDie17 5 Jul 2017
          Replying to @GenDie17 @HPluckrose @ZJemptv

          All I think is being said is that if the only thing stopping you is what's between someone's legs, it's worth asking why that is.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Jul 2017
          Replying to @GenDie17 @ZJemptv

          I know it is. What Im asking is why 'I'm not turned on by penises/vaginas' isn't sufficient when a relationship will involve genital contact

          1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GenDie17 @ZJemptv

          When you ask this question, that does seem to be an answer you don't accept & I wonder if its simply that you're attracted to both?

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Because you see that you yourself simply are not attracted to masculinity but do not seem to think this indicates misandry.

          1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Presumably, you'd be as charitable to men who are attracted to masculine men & women & not consider this to be underlaid by misogyny?

          2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
        8. GeneralDienamics‏ @GenDie17 5 Jul 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          True. But I take this, essentially, as a sign of sexual orientation. What secondary sex characteristics one finds arousing.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 5 Jul 2017
          Replying to @GenDie17

          So do I? But I'm unclear why you think this isn't so essential with primary sexual characteristics? Its v likely to be particularly w/ men.

          2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
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