This is a separate issue from discussions about what values we as a country do consider essential. I think liberal democracy is.
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It is reasonable to say, eg 'If you refuse to respect LGBT rights to live in safety, we will deport you or lock you up.'
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This is not the 'ergo decedo' fallacy. This is a social contract. Tho both can be expressed as 'If you don't like it, leave.'
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Yep, I'm with you. My initial response related to the example of demand for a land to become a theocracy. 'Ergo Decedo' works in this...
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..case, or would you say this doesnt address the problem of why someone wants a theocracy? We won't get into the social contract issue!
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That's the ethical rather than logical difference. We can say 'We don't want you if you have these values' on ethical not logical grounds.
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So, its not an example of the fallacy which I was addressing. It doesn't tell us whether a theocracy is good or bad.
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And it doesn't tell us what would be the logical solution for the person wanting a theocracy in a country which wasn't one.
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It is the social contract. "We reject theocracy. You want theocracy. Therefore, we don't want you."
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Thanks for taking the time to go through this. I admire your logical approach to things and have always enjoyed following your account.
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Very kind. However, this is something I'm just starting to think through (on Twitter as I do) so I'm not clear on what I'm getting at yet
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