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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Jul 2017

    The idea intention doesn't matter, only impact is untrue in reality and removes all need to take responsibility for your own perceptions

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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        In reality, we all know intentions matter. My husband once elbowed me in the face. The impact to my nose was not affected by his intentions

        6 replies 2 retweets 10 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        But it would have been painful on a much deeper level if it had been deliberate. As it was an accident, it didn't matter much after 10 mins

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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        And it should be clear that we bear some responsibility for how we receive things.

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Aggression relies on an attitude. If someone perceives words as aggressive, they could be right or wrong about this. The speaker knows.

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      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Which isn't to say it can't be pointed out they could seem that way & once it has been, speaker has responsibility to take that into account

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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Jul 2017
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        To think about it. They don't have to agree with the assessment or change their speech but they know the possible impact now.

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      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        A lot of this is down to the 'death of the author' idea where the speaker does not own the only meaning to his/her words.

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      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Jul 2017
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        Which is useful to a certain extent. I can read a book differently to how the author intended me to take it & this can be telling.

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      10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        But this has been twisted around to the author being both dead and responsible for the reader/listener's perceptions.

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      11. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 4 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        In some cases. People replying #NotAll are often accused on defensiveness & needing to just assume speaker didn't mean 'all.'

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      1. Harold Weaver Smith‏ @hws5mp 4 Jul 2017
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        It also places a ridiculous & paralysing burden on the speaker to predict all possible impacts on all possible listeners before speaking

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      1. Dragonblaze‏ @Dragonblaze 4 Jul 2017
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        That's nonsense. Criminal law requires 2 conditions, actus reus and mens rea, for an act to be criminal. It's the mens rea that produces

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      1. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey 4 Jul 2017
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        It’s a very dangerous idea. Crim. defence attorneys, espec. in sex offence cases, would have a field day—they’ve tried this angle for ages

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      1. Dragonblaze‏ @Dragonblaze 4 Jul 2017
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        criminal liability - and it is specifically the intention.

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      1. Melissa Krawczyk‏ @moolecular 4 Jul 2017
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        Oh my goodness this is so true! That idea is responsible for such hostility and the inability to have honest conversation.

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      1. flabberghosted(Am I an NPC?)‏ @observeaddict 4 Jul 2017
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        Right. Disregarding intention removes much perceptual responsibility but you have the added (impossible) responsibility of seeing the future

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      1. Harold Weaver Smith‏ @hws5mp 4 Jul 2017
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        Also, effects are complicated. If I give you a harsh reality check that hurts your feelings now but benefits you later, have I harmed you?

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