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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Pat Bioloka

    I'm unsure how useful complaining abt cultural pressure - lots of people thinking a certain way - is tho. Telling them they shouldn't. 1/2https://twitter.com/Amrael_pr/status/881803065682165760 …

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    Pat Bioloka @Amrael_pr
    Replying to @Amrael_pr @HPluckrose
    Being considered a bad mother if working full time with a two or three year old child is also cultural pressure
    2:43 AM - 3 Jul 2017
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    2 replies 3 retweets 8 likes
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I tend to think that refusing to bow to it & encouraging others not to if they don't want to is a better way to change expectations. 2/2

        2 replies 3 retweets 8 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I think we've made significant progress & will make more in supporting people's rights not to live according to gender roles. This is good.

        3 replies 1 retweet 10 likes
      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I don't think its either realistic or ethical to try to make 'society' embrace a certain understanding of gender or of gender roles.

        1 reply 2 retweets 8 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Whether its socially conservative rigid ones or 'gender is an oppressive cultural construct' ones or anywhere in the middle.

        2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        There should'nt be a 'wrongthink' on gender. People ultimately do what suits them &its making that a moral imperative for all is the problem

        1 reply 3 retweets 7 likes
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It's often a self-justification. Eg 'I want to be a stay-at-home mother & also like dominant men so this is how men & women should be.'

        1 reply 1 retweet 8 likes
      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Or 'I hate traditional gender roles and would be unhappy living in them so they are morally wrong & oppressive for everyone.'

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Ideal to find partners with same preferences & live as you wish Then acknowledge this is what you wish, not what is morally right.

        2 replies 3 retweets 8 likes
      10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I disagree w idea that feminist ideas dominate society & the ppl facing most social pressure are those who favour conservative gender roles

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      11. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        In the realms of life choices, that is. Much more justification to say this re academia, social justice movements & leftist policy.

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      12. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Social pressure on men & women around working & parenting still seems to be largely conservative pressure.

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      13. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        With mothers feeling guilty if they work long hours & fathers feeling ashamed if they struggle to provide alone.

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      14. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        But there is only so much you can blame 'societal pressure' for your own feelings if you've been able to make the choice you feel right.

        0 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      15. End of conversation
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      2. antihero_kate‏ @antihero_kate 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It's interesting, I lost my remote job abt a month ago & I feel extremely judged & pressured for not working. I have a two year-old.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @antihero_kate

        Do you? I'm sorry. By whom?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. antihero_kate‏ @antihero_kate 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Mostly my in-law's and my parents. Maybe even my hubs a little but that could just be me projecting.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @antihero_kate

        :( Ah, yes, a circle. This is what I was just saying. Different in laws & parents could be very judgemental abt you working with a 2 yr old.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 3 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @antihero_kate

        I was saying it's quite easy to find a circle that shares your preferences but this isn't always going to be the one you live in. :(

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      7. End of conversation

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